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kv331 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:08 am
swilow11 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:04 am SM3 seems like it can basically do it all. Great work!
Thank you, we are jusstt starting :wink:

How about a "DX7 sysex reader" feature which converts DX7 presets to SynthMaster 3 layers :) If we can achieve this, we can extend this to other hardware synths as well so that we can convert their presets to SM3 layers.
Just keeps getting better. Love it, and really love how you're active and engaged with us here 👍

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swilow11 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:12 am ... really love how you're active and engaged with us here 👍
Indeed, you don't see that very often with plugins developers. :tu:

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kv331 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:08 am
swilow11 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:04 am SM3 seems like it can basically do it all. Great work!
Thank you, we are jusstt starting :wink:

How about a "DX7 sysex reader" feature which converts DX7 presets to SynthMaster 3 layers :) If we can achieve this, we can extend this to other hardware synths as well so that we can convert their presets to SM3 layers.
FM sounds in Synthmaster 3 would of course be absolutely amazing.

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kv331 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:06 am
Floranada wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:02 am IT SOUNDS GREAT! And what else is there really? The rest is corn flakes. Yeah even though I asked about it a few times in the Beta, I found the preview thing annoying when I wasn't ready for it. That's super easy: Just disable it. Excellent work KV331 Team!
Thank you :hug:

and regarding this preset preview thingy: I got a feature request from Axwell: To be able to hide presets that you don't like. So we need a fast workflow to be able to go through preset previews. and then favorite/hide the ones you like/don't like. By pressing shift key, the user will use arrow keys or mouse scroll wheel to listen to preset previews. if he likes one, by pressing shift F he will add it to his favourites list. Similarly, if he wants to hide it, he is going to press shift H
I think what makes the previews annoying is, that they trigger while I move the mouse around.
So I more or less constantly got some unrelated sounds while listening to other presets, which is totally irritating.
Your idea could solve that I guess.
Or have a key-modifier for the rollover-preview.
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kv331 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:02 am
Olnium wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:01 pm Following this, SM3 wouldn't launch, even after a DAW and PC restart. I fixed the issue by following instructions from an earlier post where I had to amend SynthMasterSamplesFolders.txt by deleting the sample paths of the offending SFZs.
Would it be possible for you to send us the contents via dropbox/wetransfer? to info AT kv331audio DOT com
All 3 are too large to send over free file transfer (>2GB). I think the size of the sample pool may even have something to do with the hanging issue. If you want to try a similar SFZ, try one of the free Zampler banks from Beat magazine. Most are around 3GB in size.

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Olnium wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:41 am If you want to try a similar SFZ, try one of the free Zampler banks from Beat magazine. Most are around 3GB in size.
Good suggestion. Will do that tomorrow hopefuly. It's either unsupported sfz tokens or something else

Would you be able to send me the sfz files at least? they are text files, and very short.

Thanks!
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kv331 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:43 am
Olnium wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:41 am If you want to try a similar SFZ, try one of the free Zampler banks from Beat magazine. Most are around 3GB in size.
Good suggestion. Will do that tomorrow hopefuly. It's either unsupported sfz tokens or something else

Would you be able to send me the sfz files at least? they are text files, and very short.

Thanks!
SFZs Sent via WeTransfer.

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Olnium wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:53 am SFZs Sent via WeTransfer.
Thanks so much, I am going to investigate those files :hug:

I am also downloading the 9 free sample libraries on Zampler web site, let's see if there are any issues while importing them.
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Olnium wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:41 am If you want to try a similar SFZ, try one of the free Zampler banks from Beat magazine. Most are around 3GB in size.
I followed your suggestion and downloaded all 9 zampler banks. put them in a directory, and added that directory to samples paths file. As you experienced, SM3 hanged while scanning them.

I am going to debug this today/tomorrow and provide a fix. Thanks for the bug report!
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Actually had Bitwig crash in a very unique way- a random assortment of plugins throughout the whole project glitched and had to be reloaded- when I tried to drag a sample into the granular engine of SM3. Bitwig audio engine died as well... I'm reading other users describing a similar problem, although I had no trouble reloading other instances of Synthmaster 3, but did have to delete the instance that blew the project up. I then loaded the sample into the granular osc on Current and there was no issues.

I'm still using 3.0.0, has this issue been resolved in the latest release?

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kv331 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:59 pm
Olnium wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:41 am If you want to try a similar SFZ, try one of the free Zampler banks from Beat magazine. Most are around 3GB in size.
I followed your suggestion and downloaded all 9 zampler banks. put them in a directory, and added that directory to samples paths file. As you experienced, SM3 hanged while scanning them.

I am going to debug this today/tomorrow and provide a fix. Thanks for the bug report!
No problem, and thank you!

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Hi, since Synthmaster 3 is now released, I would love to see (in this particular order):

- NKS2 mapping support and preset NKS2 export
- CLAP support + per-voice modulation via CLAP support
- (already announced) ios version (is android now capable to play audio with low latency, too?)
- This engine inside Renoise

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kv331 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:08 am
swilow11 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:04 am SM3 seems like it can basically do it all. Great work!
Thank you, we are jusstt starting :wink:

How about a "DX7 sysex reader" feature which converts DX7 presets to SynthMaster 3 layers :) If we can achieve this, we can extend this to other hardware synths as well so that we can convert their presets to SM3 layers.
That would be awesome!

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kv331 wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:23 am
mutagen wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:12 am Other BT presets work. Blufftable numbered .wav files are in C:\Program Files\KV331 Audio\SynthMaster3\Resources\FactoryWaveforms\Bluffmunkey including Blufftable 23.wav

I can load Blufftable 23 into the wavetable oscillator and even set index 6 without error (not sure if that is what the error is referencing.
Hi there

So far I've done my tests with the factory presets (4188 factory presets for SM1 + SM2 + SM3 so far). Out of those 4188, only 8 of them had loading errors (one of them included that wav file you mentioned)

I am going to look into those loading issues this week and hopefuly next week there's going to be an update. (you won't have to download the whole installer again, just have to check for updates inside the plugin, in that case you download the "update" installer which is much smaller)
I was checking out many presets and they sound great, but I just ran into a similar issue for a preset that has a missing sample definition "KEY Bottles DP".

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Examigan wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:36 pm
kv331 wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:23 am
mutagen wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:12 am Other BT presets work. Blufftable numbered .wav files are in C:\Program Files\KV331 Audio\SynthMaster3\Resources\FactoryWaveforms\Bluffmunkey including Blufftable 23.wav

I can load Blufftable 23 into the wavetable oscillator and even set index 6 without error (not sure if that is what the error is referencing.
Hi there

So far I've done my tests with the factory presets (4188 factory presets for SM1 + SM2 + SM3 so far). Out of those 4188, only 8 of them had loading errors (one of them included that wav file you mentioned)

I am going to look into those loading issues this week and hopefuly next week there's going to be an update. (you won't have to download the whole installer again, just have to check for updates inside the plugin, in that case you download the "update" installer which is much smaller)
I was checking out many presets and they sound great, but I just ran into a similar issue for a preset that has a missing sample definition "KEY Bottles DP".


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Yeah I've run into that error with a bunch of presets also. Not stopping my enjoyment of the synth though.

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