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kv331 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:58 am
NikkiA wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:22 am Still getting stuck notes, but I think it's the VST3 note-off issue, and I forgot to disable the VST3 version in the installer as I usually do. Still, the VST3 note-off issue is a big deal, and should really be addressed properly, because it affects a lot of people.
What is your DAW, FL Studio ?
Same issue here, my DAW is Reaper 7.22. The VST2 works without problems.

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Collusion wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:29 pm Same issue here, my DAW is Reaper 7.22. The VST2 works without problems.
Is this 100% reproduceable ? would you be able to send me a MIDI that reproduces this ?
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Olnium wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:01 pm There's still a bug with today's release, rev. 15476, that was mentioned by someone else early in the beta phase.

I tried to load a couple of different SFZ instruments into the multisampler and SM3 just hung while trying to import the samples so I had to kill the process. Also crashed Bitwig's Plugin Sandbox on another attempt. Following this, SM3 wouldn't launch, even after a DAW and PC restart. I fixed the issue by following instructions from an earlier post where I had to amend SynthMasterSamplesFolders.txt by deleting the sample paths of the offending SFZs.
Thanks to you, I figured out the root cause for the hang issue :hug: Yes, for WAV files that have incorrect chunks, SM3 hangs forever. will be fixed in the next build.

EDIT: I fixed the issue. But I really hate when other developers don't follow specifications and generate incorrect files :lol:
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kv331 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 6:53 am
Collusion wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:29 pm Same issue here, my DAW is Reaper 7.22. The VST2 works without problems.
Is this 100% reproduceable ? would you be able to send me a MIDI that reproduces this ?
So far, this has only happened when auditioning instruments. (I should have been more specific)

Might be related to the number of layers, but I'll need to do more testing to see if this is the case.

PAD Glass Room DP getting stuck seems to be repeatable, though.

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It's Layer 2 in PAD Glass Room DP that gets stuck. Very weird. I'll test this in another host to make sure.

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Congrats! This is such a great accomplishment, and it seems like it will keep getting better.

Am I right in thinking there's currently no NKS version (Or is it my user error)?

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el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:19 am Congrats! This is such a great accomplishment, and it seems like it will keep getting better.

Am I right in thinking there's currently no NKS version (Or is it my user error)?
Correct, no NKS yet. But, we have audio previews already built into the plugin. and I am going to make the workflow better
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Collusion wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:07 am It's Layer 2 in PAD Glass Room DP that gets stuck. Very weird. I'll test this in another host to make sure.
Looks like this IS a sound designer "bug" :) he removed the ADSR envelope which terminates the layer voice :D I will fix it in the next build.
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For when is full multithreading optimizations scheduled ? Version 3.1 perhaps ?

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DarkS474 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:48 am For when is full multithreading optimizations scheduled ? Version 3.1 perhaps ?
It is not scheduled yet. It is a difficult topic.
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kv331 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:26 am
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:19 am Congrats! This is such a great accomplishment, and it seems like it will keep getting better.

Am I right in thinking there's currently no NKS version (Or is it my user error)?
Correct, no NKS yet. But, we have audio previews already built into the plugin. and I am going to make the workflow better
Thanks! Previews are good to have within the plugin, but these days I'm spending more of my time in Maschine. The NKS audio browsing is just too good of a workflow boost for me, and anything that is within that browser format is much more likely to get used.

Of course, I understand that this might not be common amongst all your users, so wouldn't expect that amount of work to be done for what might be quite a small percentage of your user-base. For the moment, I can stick with S1 & 2. But I might get it together to just record the previews from the plugin and throw them into a makeshift NKS template, just for those times when I'm not specifically working from the plugin itself.

P.S Have you thought of adding auto-sampling? :o :hihi:

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el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:10 am P.S Have you thought of adding auto-sampling? :o :hihi:
Yes it is definitely in my plans, but I might reserve that feature to the next major update.

BTW, regarding minor/major updates. Up until now we had incremental updates. But starting with SynthMaster 3, that might change. For major updates, once a year .5 update (3.5 next year, 4.0 in 2 years, etc).
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kv331 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 6:55 am
Olnium wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:01 pm There's still a bug with today's release, rev. 15476, that was mentioned by someone else early in the beta phase.

I tried to load a couple of different SFZ instruments into the multisampler and SM3 just hung while trying to import the samples so I had to kill the process. Also crashed Bitwig's Plugin Sandbox on another attempt. Following this, SM3 wouldn't launch, even after a DAW and PC restart. I fixed the issue by following instructions from an earlier post where I had to amend SynthMasterSamplesFolders.txt by deleting the sample paths of the offending SFZs.
Thanks to you, I figured out the root cause for the hang issue :hug: Yes, for WAV files that have incorrect chunks, SM3 hangs forever. will be fixed in the next build.

EDIT: I fixed the issue. But I really hate when other developers don't follow specifications and generate incorrect files :lol:
Great! Thanks for being so responsive to all of the reports you're getting. I'll test when I download the latest build.

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purchased! was impressed with the demo (coming from a long-time-ago use of synthmaster 1). looking forward to working with SM3 for real....
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So is it confirmed? The new routing introduced in ver3 makes this the FM king now?

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so far, mostly good. am enjoying exploring SM3. but getting to things like this...

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