But at least a native linux, especially Clap, for MFreeFXbundle will benefit for linux users workflow. I don't want to create another "débat" for that, just to poke Vojtech a little bit
. Anyway, I still love melda.Native linux support (Maybe it's time AGAIN)
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- KVRer
- 21 posts since 23 Nov, 2021
Yes, I know that few linux user didn't have any issue with yabridge or wine, and melda advanced cpu usage doesn't make significant difference with tools like yabridge.
But at least a native linux, especially Clap, for MFreeFXbundle will benefit for linux users workflow. I don't want to create another "débat" for that, just to poke Vojtech a little bit . Anyway, I still love melda.
But at least a native linux, especially Clap, for MFreeFXbundle will benefit for linux users workflow. I don't want to create another "débat" for that, just to poke Vojtech a little bit
. Anyway, I still love melda.-
- KVRAF
- 3164 posts since 10 Jan, 2005
+1. MSoundFactory - even only LE - Linux native would be so great and open a lot of possibilities for Linux market.
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- KVRAF
- 7217 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
I would LOVE native Linux support! However, at this point, I’m more concerned about there not being an easier way to obtain the full plugin installers for individual plugins without relying on the installation manager. I’m also worried about possible copy protection changes in the future. Right now, they still just use serial/keyfile copy protection, but with the advent of the installation manager, I’m worried about the possible inability to archive the software and serial/keyfile, and restore to a new computer if the company closes. Once these issues are resolved, I’ll go back to worrying about a native Linux version of the software. 
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 21 posts since 23 Nov, 2021
It's impossible for me to not dream about Bitwig x melda in linux and Clap support with the skin bitwiggers everyday 
In my dream, I see that knobs, that synergy, that possibilities, that supercombo.... that lalalaaaaa
In my dream, I see that knobs, that synergy, that possibilities, that supercombo.... that lalalaaaaa-
- KVRAF
- 7217 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Great news! Later in the day, the same day that I wrote the above message, Melda released a v.17.1 that resolved the problem and worries about an Installation Manager! On Melda Production's site, there is a downloadable zip file of the install data/files. This file can be archived, along with the Installation manager on your backup drive, and used off line to reinstall your plugins. So, in short, Melda Production uses a Keyfile copy protection, with a single Installation manager, and a single data file for off line installations--even if the company were to go out of business.audiojunkie wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 1:43 am I would LOVE native Linux support! However, at this point, I’m more concerned about there not being an easier way to obtain the full plugin installers for individual plugins without relying on the installation manager. I’m also worried about possible copy protection changes in the future. Right now, they still just use serial/keyfile copy protection, but with the advent of the installation manager, I’m worried about the possible inability to archive the software and serial/keyfile, and restore to a new computer if the company closes. Once these issues are resolved, I’ll go back to worrying about a native Linux version of the software.
Thank you Melda Productions for copy protection that doesn't hassle the honest more than the pirates! This is a company worth supporting!!!
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Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- 7217 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Now that the copy protection issue is resolved, I can go back to wishing for native Linux support!!!
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 21 posts since 23 Nov, 2021
I feel it comingaudiojunkie wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 2:43 pm Now that the copy protection issue is resolved, I can go back to wishing for native Linux support!!!
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- KVRAF
- 7217 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
That would be the best news of the year!
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- 3729 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
I can only approve of all comments in this thread. As you know, I run Bitwig Linux since 1.x and I run Melda plugins (complete bundle) since many years without any production problems. At the beginning I even got help from Vojtech about a MDrummer issue in Bitwig, with Vojtech sending me MDrummer debug versions from which I sen back log files. Turned out that the problem was at that early time with Bitwig.
My current setup is Xubuntu 22.04 with yabridge/wine. This said, I haven't installed v17 yet as I'm a bit weary about it still. Now that I read that the installation can be very likely like the very easy way it used to be, I might give it a try. No rush though. Since I got the complete bundle (on special and after buying a couple of plugins) I got for free MSF and a whole lot more, so I can't complain at all !
I'm also a bit wary about the direction Melda, as a bought company, could take. I already was part, professionally, of the company I worked for being bought by an extremely large German company, and for 2 years I heard all the official talks that there are possible and saw the materialization of actions contrary to the talks, and so, wary I am a little bit as there are Windows plugins yet today that simply wouldn't work, or wouldn't work satisfactorily to a minimum, so it's still possible to take a software development turn that could change the state of things for the past years.
Cheers.
My current setup is Xubuntu 22.04 with yabridge/wine. This said, I haven't installed v17 yet as I'm a bit weary about it still. Now that I read that the installation can be very likely like the very easy way it used to be, I might give it a try. No rush though. Since I got the complete bundle (on special and after buying a couple of plugins) I got for free MSF and a whole lot more, so I can't complain at all !
I'm also a bit wary about the direction Melda, as a bought company, could take. I already was part, professionally, of the company I worked for being bought by an extremely large German company, and for 2 years I heard all the official talks that there are possible and saw the materialization of actions contrary to the talks, and so, wary I am a little bit as there are Windows plugins yet today that simply wouldn't work, or wouldn't work satisfactorily to a minimum, so it's still possible to take a software development turn that could change the state of things for the past years.
Cheers.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 21 posts since 23 Nov, 2021
I completely understand your frustration. But I also respect all of Vojtech's decisions. I use Bitwig with Melda. The perfect duo for a system that's even more expansive, flexible, powerful, and modular, but in synergy. I'm all for "Bitwig native only" use, but I've discovered that using "Bitwig + Melda native Linux on CLAP format" takes it to a whole new nerdy level. Just imagine the "voice stacking" of MSaturator with offline oversampling and a de/emphasis EQ in modulation. That just kills trendy saturation plugins on the market.
In any case, if Melda doesn't go down that path, it won't be a big deal. We'll keep using Yabridge (thanks to Robbert), or we can always take another direction—after all, only our workflow matters. Companies, and also us, always have to make decisions. Time will tell... That said, I also just discovered free Linux plugins under CLAP and open-source, and it's more than promising.
In any case, if Melda doesn't go down that path, it won't be a big deal. We'll keep using Yabridge (thanks to Robbert), or we can always take another direction—after all, only our workflow matters. Companies, and also us, always have to make decisions. Time will tell... That said, I also just discovered free Linux plugins under CLAP and open-source, and it's more than promising.
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- KVRist
- 303 posts since 13 Sep, 2014
I know that it would require you to run a Windows or Mac box, which Linux people generally don't want to do, but has anyone tried setting up an Audiogridder server under a supported OS and using the client plug-in in their Linux DAW?
From what I understand (which may not be correct), that should work. Whether it actually does is what I wonder.
I've set up an Audiogridder server on one Windowbox and used the client plug-in on other Windows systems (using MPowerSynth), but haven't yet tried a mixed environment.
From what I understand (which may not be correct), that should work. Whether it actually does is what I wonder.
I've set up an Audiogridder server on one Windowbox and used the client plug-in on other Windows systems (using MPowerSynth), but haven't yet tried a mixed environment.
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- KVRAF
- 7217 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Yes, it’s been done successfully. I recently posted some research I did on system tuning as well. It’s posted over on the LinuxMusicians site.Starship Krupa wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:06 am I know that it would require you to run a Windows or Mac box, which Linux people generally don't want to do, but has anyone tried setting up an Audiogridder server under a supported OS and using the client plug-in in their Linux DAW?
From what I understand (which may not be correct), that should work. Whether it actually does is what I wonder.
I've set up an Audiogridder server on one Windowbox and used the client plug-in on other Windows systems (using MPowerSynth), but haven't yet tried a mixed environment.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)