Tech giants are normalising unethical behaviour with ai voice cloning tools.

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23rd September 2024

# Moderators.

This account is inactive again. Ive deleted all my posts apart from those which highlight what is wrong with this platform & many users.

The content has also been posted here.

https://vi-control.net/community/thread ... ls.152417/
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Thank you for your manifesto. Please be assured that it will be reviewed properly, as befits such missives. Im glad that you can reconcile this outrage at voice AIs with your choice of other such tools, such as text generators; the consistency of approach is much needed in the modern world, where humans are suddenly leveraging computerised tools to assist in their practices.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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well, some people say it's unethical to masturbate
lotsa people masturbate anyway
ah böwakawa poussé poussé

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It's about damn time we got an A.I. thread.

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harryupbabble wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 1:52 pm well, some people say it's unethical to masturbate
lotsa people masturbate anyway
Yea, but someone who masturbate, has permission from himself.
I doubt that IA corps have permission from so many vocalists to copy their voices.

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svrc wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 3:32 pm
harryupbabble wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 1:52 pm well, some people say it's unethical to masturbate
lotsa people masturbate anyway
Yea, but someone who masturbate, has permission from himself.
I doubt that IA corps have permission from so many vocalists to copy their voices.
can't get higher than god's permission
i wouldn't know
i'm barely a christian
closer to agnostic
maybe even closer to atheist
ah böwakawa poussé poussé

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i'm just joking
my religion is
slacker
and ethics sometimes goes out the window
i mean if you are not hurting anyone...
what's the big deal?
make your song by any means till you find out it's actually illegal?
ah böwakawa poussé poussé

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harryupbabble wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 3:53 pm i'm just joking
Hilarious

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tific wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 10:58 am
Many Ai tools are promoting & normalising unethical behaviour & practices.
Hmmm...that's funny, because:

Many politicians are promoting & normalising unethical behaviour and practices.

May be the one area in which trickle-down theory actually applies. :dog: :cry:

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yeah, donald trump keeps wearing hairpiece
he maybe thinks he's fooling everyone?
so unethical, that guy
ah böwakawa poussé poussé

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and pamela anderson
she's some kind of politician for pets
but no one knows how cruel she may have been...
to that animal, tommy lee
ah böwakawa poussé poussé

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This disingenuous comment from a user with over thirty three thousand posts was addressed in private.

whyterabbyt wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 11:07 am Thank you for your manifesto. Please be assured that it will be reviewed properly, as befits such missives. Im glad that you can reconcile this outrage at voice AIs with your choice of other such tools, such as text generators; the consistency of approach is much needed in the modern world, where humans are suddenly leveraging computerised tools to assist in their practices.



Here is the tool. https://en.textdrom.com/neon-png-text.html.
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How many artists would happily use samples of older tracks without any credit if they could get away with it ?

I'm not saying that tech giants (hint: it's not just the giants, it's the 'entrepreneurial' spirit) are not doing 'unethical' things - they do every day, and people just don't see it as obviously, but what you're looking at is human nature and the lure of 'free'.

It seems it's unethical to steal from the hidden folk, but less so as the target becomes more famous - but then you just have to worry about 'law' rather than ethics, right ?

Yes, using anything from anyone without consent is unethical. AI is absolutely bringing this to the forefront. However, it's not new - it's just easier and more visible.

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tific wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:04 am This disingenuous comment from a user with over thirty three thousand posts was addressed in private.
yes, and the unsolicited PM was just a craven attempt at hidden abuse. 'waaaaah, how dare you comment on my post and not appreciate my cleverness. You have too many posts, Im great, dont bother replying Im not going to read your PM'

Please note that by sending me any further unsolicited PMs, you will be agreeing that those PMs you send will be considered suitable for public reposting.

(And now back to the 'AI is teh suck' wailing and gnashing of teeth)
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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