Sorry i wasnt specific, that i understand, its the same with every daw, if you dont want to upgrade no need this is nothing new, but what will be the price for the upgrades thats a question.koalaboy wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:05 pmYou then need to pay for another year's upgrades when you want anything new, but don't have to do that until you want the new features and everything that came before. You still get to use/keep everything you already have without upgrading.Lbdunequest wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:26 pm I dont know if i have missed this, but after that one year, what will be another year to update?
PreSonus Studio One 7 apparently imminent
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- KVRian
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- KVRian
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For this yes but for future upgrades.koalaboy wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:34 pm We don't know exactly (prices may change) but the $149 (or equivalent) for this upgrade will likely be similar I think.
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- KVRAF
- 25014 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Lol... there's only few DAWs who don't have that... it's really not much to write home about at all - what you don't understand is what a generic feature this actually is...BONES wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:51 am what we are saying is you don't understand how easy it is in Studio One and why those little handles, and the line between them, are so important to many of us for the type of work we do.
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- KVRist
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Yeah, that's the thing. I had simply responded to jamcat's assertion that beatmakers and loop producers probably do indeed know about such basic things. It's not like... Some obscure "power user" type of feature, ya know?jens wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:59 pmLol... there's only few DAWs who don't have that... it's really not much to write home about at all - what you don't understand is what a generic feature this actually is...BONES wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:51 am what we are saying is you don't understand how easy it is in Studio One and why those little handles, and the line between them, are so important to many of us for the type of work we do.
Granted, if Presonus did indeed break or ruin this functionality, I'll be as mad as he is. However, I'm reserving judgment until I actually get to look at the released version.
And like... Maybe we can lay off the superiority complex when referencing beatmakers? Or maybe not assume they are/call them dumb? Pipe dream?
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660 - Banned
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Presonus is not going to break one of the most fundamental features that almost every daw on this planet has.
Why would anyone even think that ?
Why would anyone even think that ?
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- KVRAF
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Because this is KVRgentleclockdivider wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:35 pm Presonus is not going to break one of the most fundamental features that almost every daw on this planet has.
Why would anyone even think that ?
No auto tune...
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- KVRAF
- 25014 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
What I keep saying is that only those who are actually rather insecure - because deep-down inside they know that their skills and talent are decidedly meh - do this... I've never seen any of the hugely talented musos I've met in my live coming even close to doing anything of that sort. Instead they were all incredibly open, tolerant and humble - someone to look up to indeed.JasonSpatola wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:28 pm And like... Maybe we can lay off the superiority complex when referencing beatmakers? :
Edit: grammar
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- KVRAF
- 25014 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Because people feast on drama and hyperbole...
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- KVRist
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They should feast on pizza bagels instead. When pizza's on a bagel, you can eat pizza anytime.
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- KVRAF
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Stylistically, loops are supposed to abruptly repeat. Entire genres are built on that sound.
But in genres that are meant to more or less present a live continuous performance, you want splices to be seamless. I figured all of this was a given.
But Jens never misses an opportunity to project.
But in genres that are meant to more or less present a live continuous performance, you want splices to be seamless. I figured all of this was a given.
But Jens never misses an opportunity to project.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRian
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Because some people lack critical thinking and are speaking through their emotions. The most obvious reason why they wouldn't remove it is because it would ruin backwards compatibility with older projects.gentleclockdivider wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:35 pm Presonus is not going to break one of the most fundamental features that almost every daw on this planet has.
Why would anyone even think that ?
They didn't remove it. Let's move on from this.
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- KVRAF
- 7668 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
They removed the always present visibility of it, at the very least. Which means as users, we will be presented with fewer critical visual cues to inform us what is happening in the mix.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRAF
- 25014 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
jamcat wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 10:56 pm Stylistically, loops are supposed to abruptly repeat. Entire genres are built on that sound.
But in genres that are meant to more or less present a live continuous performance, you want splices to be seamless. I figured all of this was a given.
Yes yes - if it wasn't for the small detail that in reality the world isn't black and white and people can do whatever they want and feel like and there's as many genres/subgenres as there are musicians and one needs to be extremely narrow-minded and ignorant to say the kind of things you do about other musos - oh, and full of resentment and envy too of course on top of the afore mentioned insecurity and self-loathing.
I'm clearly not projecting here - stop saying these things and then afterwards claiming that it's just us misinterpreting them...But Jens never misses an opportunity to project.
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- KVRian
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Are we moving goals posts now? I'm sure once the fades are made, they will be constantly visible. That's what I would assume from a proper design choice.jamcat wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:02 pm They removed the always present visibility of it, at the very least. Which means as users, we will be presented with fewer critical visual cues about what is happening in the mix.