SynthMaster 3 Official Thread: SynthMaster 3/Player v3.4.9 Rev 17271 update

[audiojunkie]

Again, just love how receptive you are to our feedback, Bulent.

Well, I have to be. Because it's a very tough market, believe me We are literally trying to survive! Spent so much money on presets, advertising (MusicRadar, Production Expert, SonicState, Facebook/Instagram) and yet I don't see any results yet to justify that much expenditure. I hope that it's because the holiday season hasn't started yet...

You should feature a preset previewer for SynthMaster 3 prominently on your website. The sound is a main selling point for the synth and probably much more convincing than a list of features.

Maybe also make some videos like Nexus has. They have a video for each preset pack which shows which presets where used at which part during the demo track. You could make videos like that for some of your demo tracks and feature them on the website.

Or maybe make video demo tracks featuring each oscillator type showcasing the different sounds you can get with them. That way, you can showcase the variety of sounds SM3 can produce while also giving the potential customer something to listen to.

A synth is all about sound, and that's difficult to convey with a list of features and images. Having a sound cloud window all the way at the bottom doesn't seem right. Few people are going to scroll that far.

Personally, I don't think adding a few more features like an additive engine is going to have a major impact on sales. I would keep that for a larger update in a few months which might get you featured on some YouTube channels again.

Until then, I'd focus on usability and improve the first impressions people get when they try the demo. Both from a UI/UX perspective and from a tutorial perspective. Maybe get some YouTuber to make a series of short tutorials for beginners making a variety of presets.

Anyway, since this was all unsolicited advice, feel free to ignore. I also might be wrong, but what you're doing so far doesn't seem to be working very well, so maybe try something new

I really like the sound of SynthMaster, so please keep developing it for a long time!

I do agree on having the ability to listen to all of the great sounds that Synthmaster 3 has. The sound is what sells me to products (and did in the case of the Synthmaster 3 Everything bundle too ). Hearing all of the presets totally sold me.

[audiojunkie]

Maybe also make some videos like Nexus has. They have a video for each preset pack which shows which presets where used at which part during the demo track. You could make videos like that for some of your demo tracks and feature them on the website.

Thanks so much for your comments!

About the videos, like below:

Yep! It was after hearing this video that I hit the purchase button.

[audiojunkie]

About the videos, like below:

Yes, like that. Although they look a bit more boring than the ones from Nexus.

But why haven't I've seen them before? Am I blind or are they well hidden?

Edit: I guess I'm not subscribed to your YouTube channel yet. I've changed that.
But I think it would be good to have some of them embedded on your website as well.

I agree! This would be good to have on the website.

[emef]

yeah i'm using todays version too
i can also add layers like you show in your post
but the option to add a different sound to a different layer is gone
it was there in previous versions, but now it's just not there anymore

Loading SM3 presets into layers is not implemented yet. But you can load SM1/SM2 presets into layers, that's possible.

oh i'm such a doofus apologies, cheers

[Examigan]

I messed around with the Wav import using some drum samples in a single layer and made this as a quick example.

https://soundcloud.com/examigan/those-drums

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

Loading sm1 preset in layer1,sm2 in layer2 and sm3 in layer 3 will be amazing
i understand Bulent is touchy on everything related to Synthmaster,it's work of his life and it's brilliant,all of the three synths,just people (like me for example) are mostly interested of music,not so technically educated and that's why they are impressed by musical stuff like presets or demos.
Users spend billions every year for stuff they are convinced by some demo,heard/watched somewhere,made by somebody:)
My upcoming NEXT GENERATION (this october) will open some new frontiers ahead as cinematic and analog sound.
I worked too hard on it, to drop it just like that
About targeting specific groups as users (i was good seller years ago:),no matter what company sell - it's a science and no receipt for success,especially after 2020 society breakdown,most businesses barely survive.
But people choose better stuff in the end,if they are aware of product quality
For example Diva is advertised as super virtual analog synth and people give money for something ,they believe worth it,but have very limited capabilities compared to SM3,why kv331 don't start more aggressive strategy comparing SM3 to other 150 euro (super) synths and what it can do,other can't.
Imo,when everything is done as development with SM3,you need a higher price and better presentation
There is no other synth like sm3 right now on the market,not even close.
Have a nice day,users

[bilrobins]

Hi guys - do I need to purchase Synthmaster One to gain access to the Synthmaster One expansion pack for Synthmaster 3? I don't really want Synthmaster One but I would like the patches. I only own Synthmaster 3.

[kv331]

Hi guys - do I need to purchase Synthmaster One to gain access to the Synthmaster One expansion pack for Synthmaster 3? I don't really want Synthmaster One but I would like the patches. I only own Synthmaster 3.

Yes you'd need a license for SynthMaster One. Please wait for October, we're gonna have a huge sale for SynthMaster One and SynthMaster One expansions!

OR

Upgrade to SynthMaster Producer Bundle for $59. You will get: SynthMaster One + 10 expansion banks of your choice -1800 presets- and you can use coupon code DEMOEXPIRED for a 10% Off

Bulent

[Examigan]

Hi guys - do I need to purchase Synthmaster One to gain access to the Synthmaster One expansion pack for Synthmaster 3? I don't really want Synthmaster One but I would like the patches. I only own Synthmaster 3.

Yes you'd need a license for SynthMaster One. Please wait for October, we're gonna have a huge sale for SynthMaster One and SynthMaster One expansions!

OR

Upgrade to SynthMaster Producer Bundle for $59. You will get: SynthMaster One + 10 expansion banks of your choice -1800 presets- and you can use coupon code DEMOEXPIRED for a 10% Off

Bulent

Speaking of expansions, is it ok to make presets from Fairlight and other sounds I’ve found online? I am guessing it depends on which hardware was sampled?

[kv331]

Speaking of expansions, is it ok to make presets from Fairlight and other sounds I’ve found online? I am guessing it depends on which hardware was sampled?

For personal use, I don't think there would be any issues.

For expansion development though, many hardware synth internal samples are copyrighted, like Roland

[Examigan]

Yeah I think with Roland you’d have to make your own presets and sample those but not any internal samples or presets they have … that’s definitely off limits

[swilow11]

2 things: when using the wavetable oscillators, I assumed the 2 arrows were to enable cycling between wavetables, but they have no effect. I think this is a bug.

Also, the wavetable editor is confusing as hell and nearly everytime I use it and apply the spectral filter or whatever, SM3 glitches and ends up crashing in Bitwig.

[kv331]

2 things: when using the wavetable oscillators, I assumed the 2 arrows were to enable cycling between wavetables, but they have no effect. I think this is a bug.

Yes that was introduced with the latest build 15544. Try pressing the shift key while clicking on the arrows as a workaround. will fix in the next update.

Also, the wavetable editor is confusing as hell and nearly everytime I use it and apply the spectral filter or whatever, SM3 glitches and ends up crashing in Bitwig.

Did you modify the Master Filter? was it in Freehand mode or Line mode?

[swilow11]

^Good to hear the arrow thing is getting fixed.

Re: wavetable editor- good question, I will take a deeper look.

Also, using the oscillator modifiers (eg. sync) the control that becomes available to control the sync amount is called "phase". Not sure why its not just called "sync amount" or something. This is the same with the bitcrush algorithm, except that when you apply this, the control in the "off position" for other effects is at full bitcrush value. Confusing.

I really love the synth and the sounds, but its still just too buggy for me to confidently use. There are just so many perplexing little things that don't seem to work predicatably or end up just crashing. I think I'm going to avoid using it for a few months while all this gets ironed out. I just can't consider it usable in this state

[sergiofrias]

+1 for Loading SM3 presets into layers