The Legend HZ by Synapse Audio now available!

[Caine123]

Do Synapse audio upgrades go on sales sometime ?
Got an original second hand legend licence...

I doubt it. My guess it is a set upgrade price. Could be that some reseller's storewide anniversary sale or similar could pop up, like "5-10% off with this code"-kind of sale, but that would be a gamble and not that much to save on anyways.

hope so too, i find the upgrade price a bit too high. thats why i didnt upgrade yet and im still interested in this upgrade though.
does the Legend have the genetics function btw?

[gaf_thit]

does the Legend have the genetics function btw?

It does, yes.
And has a toggle of it's own in the preset manager:
"Genetics - displays all saved patches made with the GENETICS function." *from the manual

[Caine123]

does the Legend have the genetics function btw?

It does, yes.
And has a toggle of it's own in the preset manager:
"Genetics - displays all saved patches made with the GENETICS function." *from the manual

thx a lot

[Teksonik]

Damn. I'm just super impressed by this synth in a way I haven't been for a while. I am struggling to not just throw the dollars at it...

If one has never tried Synapse Audio's DUNE 3 then I suggest doing so before deciding on a purchase.

It's a highly under rated VA. I call it Analog 2.0 due to the pristine core sound. It has an incredible range and depth of sounds even if one only uses the VA Oscs.

People often see that it's a Wavetable synth but overlook the fact that it has up to 24 VA Oscs with up to 8 different filters (16 when using the dual filters) out of a choice of over 30 filter types many of which are analog modelled.

I love DUNE 3's VA capabilities so much it allowed me to trade my DIVA license on and yes I know that some heads just exploded.

For $20 more than The Legend HZ you get so much more with DUNE 3 that it's a no brainer choice in my opinion but of course personal tastes, needs, and wants vary wildly from person to person so others will no doubt disagree.

I've made well over 1,000 presets for DUNE 3 and it's never bored me once. I'm always finding something new even when just using the VA engine and then the Wavetable, FM, and Single Sample import options allow you to take it in so many other directions.

I just wanted everyone to at least try DUNE 3 before making a final decision. It's my favorite synth I've ever owned, hardware or software so perhaps others will share the love I have for it...

[gaf_thit]

Let the spice flow!

[Dirtgrain]

Dune also went for $79 within the last year, IIRC.

[gaf_thit]

Bought it with the discount from Luftrum's latest soundset. 20% off... GAS was burning too hot

[swilow11]

Damn. I'm just super impressed by this synth in a way I haven't been for a while. I am struggling to not just throw the dollars at it...

If one has never tried Synapse Audio's DUNE 3 then I suggest doing so before deciding on a purchase.

It's a highly under rated VA. I call it Analog 2.0 due to the pristine core sound. It has an incredible range and depth of sounds even if one only uses the VA Oscs.

People often see that it's a Wavetable synth but overlook the fact that it has up to 24 VA Oscs with up to 8 different filters (16 when using the dual filters) out of a choice of over 30 filter types many of which are analog modelled.

I love DUNE 3's VA capabilities so much it allowed me to trade my DIVA license on and yes I know that some heads just exploded.

For $20 more than The Legend HZ you get so much more with DUNE 3 that it's a no brainer choice in my opinion but of course personal tastes, needs, and wants vary wildly from person to person so others will no doubt disagree.

I've made well over 1,000 presets for DUNE 3 and it's never bored me once. I'm always finding something new even when just using the VA engine and then the Wavetable, FM, and Single Sample import options allow you to take it in so many other directions.

I just wanted everyone to at least try DUNE 3 before making a final decision. It's my favorite synth I've ever owned, hardware or software so perhaps others will share the love I have for it...

I've demoed it and really loved it BUT- I'm already using Serum, Current, Massive X, Hive, Falcon, Synthmaster/s, custom Bitiwg wavetable-into-Filterverse preset (plus i own but rarely use Pigments, Vital, and have let my sub to Phase Plant lapse), got a Microfreak and an Argon 8 too- all which sort of tick similar boxes to Dune. To justify another big old wavetable/subtractive is hard to do. But it does sit on my possible purchase list- probably need to demo it more extensively. Seeing it going for $79 as mentioned above- I would have been all over that. Shame I missed it... If you own any of the synths I mentioned, how would you stack up Dune relatively speaking?

I guess I'm covered for VA too, bunch of Cherry Audio, Arturia V Collection, Monark, etc. But in a very ad hoc shoot out, The Legend sounded much nicer than anything else- possibly the best softsynth I've heard. The Arturia Mini is actually kinda underwhelming to my ears, Monark sounds much better, but it's much more limited than the Legend.

I feel like me purchasing TLHZ is almost inevitable so I'm almost hoping to find some major drawbacks.

[Jac459]

Damn. I'm just super impressed by this synth in a way I haven't been for a while. I am struggling to not just throw the dollars at it...

If one has never tried Synapse Audio's DUNE 3 then I suggest doing so before deciding on a purchase.

It's a highly under rated VA. I call it Analog 2.0 due to the pristine core sound. It has an incredible range and depth of sounds even if one only uses the VA Oscs.

People often see that it's a Wavetable synth but overlook the fact that it has up to 24 VA Oscs with up to 8 different filters (16 when using the dual filters) out of a choice of over 30 filter types many of which are analog modelled.

I love DUNE 3's VA capabilities so much it allowed me to trade my DIVA license on and yes I know that some heads just exploded.

For $20 more than The Legend HZ you get so much more with DUNE 3 that it's a no brainer choice in my opinion but of course personal tastes, needs, and wants vary wildly from person to person so others will no doubt disagree.

I've made well over 1,000 presets for DUNE 3 and it's never bored me once. I'm always finding something new even when just using the VA engine and then the Wavetable, FM, and Single Sample import options allow you to take it in so many other directions.

I just wanted everyone to at least try DUNE 3 before making a final decision. It's my favorite synth I've ever owned, hardware or software so perhaps others will share the love I have for it...

I've demoed it and really loved it BUT- I'm already using Serum, Current, Massive X, Hive, Falcon, Synthmaster/s, custom Bitiwg wavetable-into-Filterverse preset (plus i own but rarely use Pigments, Vital, and have let my sub to Phase Plant lapse), got a Microfreak and an Argon 8 too- all which sort of tick similar boxes to Dune. To justify another big old wavetable/subtractive is hard to do. But it does sit on my possible purchase list- probably need to demo it more extensively. Seeing it going for $79 as mentioned above- I would have been all over that. Shame I missed it... If you own any of the synths I mentioned, how would you stack up Dune relatively speaking?

I guess I'm covered for VA too, bunch of Cherry Audio, Arturia V Collection, Monark, etc. But in a very ad hoc shoot out, The Legend sounded much nicer than anything else- possibly the best softsynth I've heard. The Arturia Mini is actually kinda underwhelming to my ears, Monark sounds much better, but it's much more limited than the Legend.

I feel like me purchasing TLHZ is almost inevitable so I'm almost hoping to find some major drawbacks.

I can help you....
A bit....

The mseg editor is not very practical to edit....

Ok.

That's all.

Rest is awesome.

[MattLeschuck]

Damn. I'm just super impressed by this synth in a way I haven't been for a while. I am struggling to not just throw the dollars at it...

If one has never tried Synapse Audio's DUNE 3 then I suggest doing so before deciding on a purchase.

It's a highly under rated VA. I call it Analog 2.0 due to the pristine core sound. It has an incredible range and depth of sounds even if one only uses the VA Oscs.

People often see that it's a Wavetable synth but overlook the fact that it has up to 24 VA Oscs with up to 8 different filters (16 when using the dual filters) out of a choice of over 30 filter types many of which are analog modelled.

I love DUNE 3's VA capabilities so much it allowed me to trade my DIVA license on and yes I know that some heads just exploded.

For $20 more than The Legend HZ you get so much more with DUNE 3 that it's a no brainer choice in my opinion but of course personal tastes, needs, and wants vary wildly from person to person so others will no doubt disagree.

I've made well over 1,000 presets for DUNE 3 and it's never bored me once. I'm always finding something new even when just using the VA engine and then the Wavetable, FM, and Single Sample import options allow you to take it in so many other directions.

I just wanted everyone to at least try DUNE 3 before making a final decision. It's my favorite synth I've ever owned, hardware or software so perhaps others will share the love I have for it...

I agree here. Despite owning Legend HZ (and Obsession), I find myself still always reaching for Dune 3 as its much more flexible and i find i can get similar sounds out of it if i want.

Its my favorite synth as well. Rapid and Thorn just behind.

[BBFG#]

I don't think they're bad, but for me they're just okay. And never felt them worth buying after the demo. Maybe because the demo wasn't long enough to find what may be special to me. But I don't dislike them. I do scan these threads from time to time though. So not counting them out completely.

[BONES]

I just wanted everyone to at least try DUNE 3 before making a final decision. It's my favorite synth I've ever owned, hardware or software so perhaps others will share the love I have for it...

At the other end of the spectrum, I've owned DUNE forever and I never, ever think to open it any more. Yes, it sounds amazing and five years ago I don't think anything could touch it for sheer sound quality. But I think Legend HZ is one of a handful of synths that have breezed by it in the last year or so.

That means that unless you want a complex do-it-all instrument and are willing to put up with the workflow, there are other more than viable options out there that are easier to work with and cost less. If I had to choose between them, I'd probably take Legend HZ, even though I hate ladder filters. As you say, it's a matter of where your priorities lay.

Right now I am looking for excuses to use Korg's new ARP2600 VSTi. It is the best sounding softsynth I have ever heard and, surprisingly, it's actually quite easy to work with. Whoever thought of sticking a SEM filter in there is a f**king genius and deserves a raise, ARP's filters have always been their Achilles heel.

[gaf_thit]

IMO the inclusion of an fx version is fantastic and sugar on top of the honey.
Love it.

[Teksonik]

That means that unless you want a complex do-it-all instrument and are willing to put up with the workflow

The thing you always fail to realize is that DUNE 3 can be just as simple as The Legend HZ (an INIT patch is a single Osc through a fully open filter, it doesn't get any simpler than that) if simple is what someone wants and very complex for those who prefer more complex sounds. Win-Win.

Most of the lead sounds I use come from D3 and many of them are two or three Oscs but the advantage over Legend is you can have different filters for each Osc, different freq and cutoff, ADSR, FX, etc settings. Complexity leads to depth.

Owning both makes sense due to their different character and layering the two yields a melding of the raw original analog of Legend and the hi definition Analog 2.0 found in DUNE 3. Very pleasing sounds can be had.

The quality of DUNE 3 is exactly why I use it and after a little bit of hands on experience it can be just as fast and easy to program as any other similar synth. Passing on one of the best sounding synths just because of "workflow" (which can be learned in a short time with as much effort as complaining about it) makes absolutely no sense to me but to each his own.

At any rate here are 25 free presets for The Legend HZ. Not in the same league as the master Hans Zimmer but someone mentioned wanting "non-cinematic" presets so here you go.

1 Arp, 3 Bass, 9 Leads, 5 Seq (130bpm host tempo), 7 Synths:

[Ou_Tis]

Owning both makes sense due to their different character and layering the two yields a melding of the raw original analog of Legend and the hi definition Analog 2.0 found in DUNE 3. Very pleasing sounds can be had.

The quality of DUNE 3 is exactly why I use it and after a little bit of hands on experience it can be just as fast and easy to program as any other similar synth. Passing on one of the best sounding synths just because of "workflow" (which can be learned in a short time with as much effort as complaining about it) makes absolutely no sense to me but to each his own.

Do you have any audio examples of Dune 3 sounding great? I listened to a few on Youtube and I'm honestly not impressed at all. It's okay. "Clean", yes, lacking in saturation or analog fatness, sounds a lot like many other VA oscillators. Filter sweeps don't sound great---for example, in the "Dreamy Notch Strings" preset from this demo:



The preset before that one in the video---Cinema Strings---is okay, but pretty standard, not outstanding. And Cinema Strings is probably my favorite out of all the presets in the video (all of which are also boring and derivative). I don't like it anywhere near as much as I like The Legend HZ. (Which I still won't buy until it's heavily discounted, if it ever is...)