Undertone Audio UnFairchild 670M mkII plugin

[Uncle E]

I had the hardware Stamchild. The UA version sounds just as good/pretty much the same.

MJUC is different.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I had the hardware Stamchild. The UA version sounds just as good/pretty much the same.

I've got the Stam 1176-ADG (SA76-ADG), and I can't hear much of a difference between that and the UA 1176AE plugin other than the noise floor. It's annoying.

[jens]

MJUC is different.

It's certainly more flexible, so it depends a lot on how you dial it it (and of course you need to set it to "Limiter" to compare it to other fairchildish comps... )

[Uncle E]

I've got the Stam 1176-ADG (SA76-ADG), and I can't hear much of a difference between that and the UA 1176AE plugin other than the noise floor. It's annoying.

Also, no 9 month wait to get the plugin.

[Uncle E]

It's certainly more flexible, so it depends a lot on how you dial it it (and of course you need to set it to "Limiter" to compare it to other fairchildish comps... )

It's thicker sounding no matter how you dial it. UA 175 and 176 are more comparable, IMO, which is saying a lot because those are great compressors.

[jens]

It's certainly more flexible, so it depends a lot on how you dial it it (and of course you need to set it to "Limiter" to compare it to other fairchildish comps... )

It's thicker sounding no matter how you dial it.

Yes, I agree with that - I already mentioned the thickness before... there's ways to make it less pronounced (setting it to Limiter already helps a lot), but it's true that I didn't manage to quite get rid of it - Unfairchild sounds leaner, no matter what.

UA 175 and 176 are more comparable, IMO, which is saying a lot because those are great compressors.

I don't do UAD, but I have the Antelope one (Tube 176) - I guess I'll have to look into that...

[iTzPrime]

I leave that judgement to you...

(but anyone who rates him highly is in the luck as Eddie is putting out new stuff left and right via three different brands)

Try it out, it is an excellent plugin.

So would you say it's a lot better than MJUC?

I think it has a bit of a different flavor to MJUC. I never felt that MJUC was the greatest on buses, whereas this one is great.

[jens]

Fair point - I normally don't use busses, so I wouldn't know...

[Deisss]

I tend to like Kiive myself quite a bit, Complexx is already an all time favorite (others - less), so gonna try it!

[Uncle E]

Fair point - I normally don't use busses, so I wouldn't know...

You are forbidden from ever expressing an opinion again!

But seriously, why wouldn't you use busses? Serious time saver. I used to exclusively bus mix, meaning I would bus all the individual channels and do the mixing there. Does this mean you also don't compress the main bus?

[jens]

Fair point - I normally don't use busses, so I wouldn't know...

You are forbidden from ever expressing an opinion again!

But seriously, why wouldn't you use busses? Serious time saver. I used to exclusively bus mix, meaning I would bus all the individual channels and do the mixing there.

For me it's just more tracks to (pun maybe intended) keep track of. I mostly don't see the point.
I simpy enjoy working on/mixing individual instruments more than semi-arbitrarily grouping several of them together... but then again I don't use that many tracks anyway -
my project usually have only around ten to fiveteen tracks (sometimes even less)...

having said that:

I use Superior Drummer in 2 channel-config, so that could be considered a bus -
and yes, if I would record real drums instead, I might group them -
but then again I'd probably use the Glyn Johns setup or something similar,
so I might not bother using a bus after all.

Does this mean you also don't compress the main bus?

What do you mean? The master? Of course I don't!

[Uncle E]

Similarly to you, I've moved away from bus mixing because the projects I work on are a lot smaller now. I now only do it to get the sound of bus compression. But when I was mixing other people and working on huge projects, it was a huge time saver and made mixing a lot easier. I would get a basic mix with the channels, assign them to busses, and then hide the channels and rarely look at them again.

[Endor-8o8]

Such a buggy release, GS thread is full of bug reports. I've became tired of that "release day beta testing" with Kiive plugins especially when Eddie seems to repeat the same mistakes every time (broken recalls and oversampling issues, mix knob phase issues)...

Don't know how it was beta tested and if the dev really takes feedbacks into account during this phase.

[comfortablynick]

Still enjoying this plugin. The VAR attack/release settings are great; they give you a Fairchild sound but still allow you to preserve some transients.

[comfortablynick]

Such a buggy release, GS thread is full of bug reports. I've became tired of that "release day beta testing" with Kiive plugins especially when Eddie seems to repeat the same mistakes every time (broken recalls and oversampling issues, mix knob phase issues)...

Don't know how it was beta tested and if the dev really takes feedbacks into account during this phase.

As I posted on GS, I haven't experienced those issues. I don't use PT but the VST3 version has been fine for me. I haven't used the mix knob much but I didn't hear an audible phase issue when I tested it.