PreSonus Studio One 7 apparently imminent

[Uncle E]

I found a statement on a website saying "Any Studio One version 6 professional Edition license or license upgrade purchased on or after August 1st will get Studio One Pro 7 when it's released on October 9th." I bought the Studio One Pro 6 upgrade on July 31 and registered it on August 1! However, I'm not seeing a free upgrade in my account. Presumably I should be eligible. The normal registration process didn't work for me, though. I had to contact the support staff and they registered it. Maybe that's why it's not showing up. I'll contact them again.

Try logging out of your my.presonus.com account and then logging back in from the home page. I saw the Redeem link for 7 only after I did that.

[c_voltage]

Dmn i upgraded to v6 in end of june

[THE INTRANCER]

So no word on any third party resellers providing a cheaper upgrade price? I guess some of us will probably need to hold out for Black Friday in the latter part of November to see if this transpires or not. I remember doing this back in 2019 when I upgraded to version 4. Yikes where did the years go... :-O. Out of curiosity what's the UK pricing of the upgrade including VAT? Additionally, what happens once the demo trial ends with 7.0 Pro?

[BONES]

I wonder if any DAW in the past five+ years has had a release where the majority of users were not EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED

The thing with it is, if I wanted or needed a clip launcher, I wouldn't be using Studio One and I'm sure that's true of the vast majority of existing users. So they are giving us something we don't want or need, instead of doubling down on the things we do appreciate in Studio One and making it better. The entire thing is about a big grab for new users, so of course existing users are going to see it as a waste of time and money.

The algorithm is the same on all clips (because is track based). In cubase you can use a different one for each clip even if it is one the same track.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. AFAIK, there is only one algorithm anyway, isn't there?

Lol. People just love to complain. 2024 is probably the best time to live in for music production. If you can't get it done with the current tools on the market then nothing can help you..sorry.

That's been the case for the last 10 years or more, which is the problem. Improvements have been incremental in recent years, at best, as it's a very mature market now. There are no big, exciting new features for anyone to unveil, so these days we are paying bigger upgrade fees for less impressive upgrades. Of course that's going to disappoint/annoy people.

$99 for a perpetual icense of latest version and 6 months of updates seems a fair price, so I'm probably going to go with it coming from v5

$99? Where'd you see that price?

Finally have 7 going and it looks great, almost exactly the same as before. The rounded corners are the only things that tell me I'm in 7 and not 6. AFAICT, fades work the same as before. Seems like all upside, no downside.

Sorry, there's "upside"? I can't see anything, just a bunch of stuff I wouldn't want if it was free. They are asking me to pay Au$250 for business as usual. f**k that!

Otoh Having a clip launcher is totally differerent and could be a welcome addition , perhaps it's time to get of your high horse .

Different to what? Different to Ableton? Tried that, hated it. Different to Bitwig? Used that for 6 months and found the clip launcher a complete waste of time. So what, exactly, is different about a clip launcher?

[Digivolt]

$99? Where'd you see that price?

At Sweetwater, Uncle E's deal is better for upgrading from 5 or lower though

[BONES]

Oh, I'm not upgrading at all. f**k PreSonus!

then don't listen to hip-hop, turntablism, most electronic music the last 30 years, etc.

That's OK, I don't. 99.99% of it is complete krap.

Stop accusing everyone of being a NON musician because they have a different workflow then you.

I think it's a perfectly valid description. If you can't play an instrument competently, you are not a musician, and that includes a large slice of the KVR user base. I am certainly not a musician and I have no interest in being one. But I think what Jamcat is saying is spot-on. We don't all want to work like a Hip-Hop producer. Every time I hear music production referred to as "makin' beats", my blood curdles.

...but I don't yell like an old fart because he's stuck in the 40's .

Right, because George Martin used a computer to produce all the stuff he worked on.

Don't get me wrong, I think Jamcat is bat-shit crazy, doing things the way he does, but I think his complaints here are mostly valid (although I can't think of anything I care about less than rounded or hard corners).

Somehow you think your the only one on this forum who is a musician who plays an instrument .

Obviously that's not true. I imagine he assumes that most of us who choose Studio One are. You're just taking offense because of your insecurity around your own abilities. You're the guy who needs to get over himself.

[THE INTRANCER]

The thing with it is, if I wanted or needed a clip launcher, I wouldn't be using Studio One and I'm sure that's true of the vast majority of existing users. So they are giving us something we don't want or need, instead of doubling down on the things we do appreciate in Studio One and making it better. The entire thing is about a big grab for new users, so of course existing users are going to see it as a waste of time and money.

Different to what? Different to Ableton? Tried that, hated it. Different to Bitwig? Used that for 6 months and found the clip launcher a complete waste of time. So what, exactly, is different about a clip launcher?

On the contrary, the fact that Presonus is filling the gaps in its flagship DAW is a good thing, by providing alternative workflows in one sleek and intuitive GUI in which allows users to learn. Music is ultimately about creativity and not everyone has been creating music for 20 or 30 years or perhaps feel inhibited by more stringent workflows in which to lay down and edit a track through more comprehensive menu options that they have still may have to learn. Christ, I'll just load up Studio One most of the time just to play around and if something strikes a cord I'll either save it for later or go full steam ahead and get the track down as quickly as possible.

Everyone has their own needs and priorities and right now I'm struggling to think of anything of great significance other than user re-scalable fonts for the GUI to be implemented or something else that you don't want or need I could think of.

[Uncle E]

jamcat + BONES vs. the world!

[THE INTRANCER]

I am certainly not a musician and I have no interest in being one.

Christ, that's a shocker , like seriously, you don't have any competent ability to play an instrument?

[gentleclockdivider]

I imagine he assumes that most of us who choose Studio One are. You're just taking offense because of your insecurity around your own abilities. You're the guy who needs to get over himself.

Given the amount of tantrums you’ve have thrown , me thinks you’re the one who’s a bit fragile and insecure ( hidding behind steampunk goggles :

[BONES]

On the contrary, the fact that Presonus is filling the gaps in its flagship DAW is a good thing, by providing alternative workflows in one sleek and intuitive GUI in which allows users to learn.

I don't need to learn, I've been doing this for 40 years, so it's of less than no interest to me or, I imagine, to the bulk of existing users.

Music is ultimately about creativity and not everyone has been creating music for 20 or 30 years or perhaps feel inhibited by more stringent workflows in which to lay down and edit a track through more comprehensive menu options that they have still may have to learn.

And the solution is to make Studio One even more complex, so it is harder to learn. How does that work?

Christ, I'll just load up Studio One most of the time just to play around and if something strikes a cord I'll either save it for later or go full steam ahead and get the track down as quickly as possible.

Isn't that kind of how everyone works? That's certainly how I've always done things.

Everyone has their own needs and priorities and right now I'm struggling to think of anything of great significance other than user re-scalable fonts for the GUI to be implemented or something else that you don't want or need I could think of.

I want Studio One to handle VST plugins better, so they don't hang when I close a song and freeze Studio One. I want it to use less system resources, to start faster and close songs/projects faster. I want it to be better at being Studio One, not a sad, late-to-the-party clone of Bitwig or Live. A jack of all trades, master of none. That's why I bought a license for Artist, even though I already had a Pro license - it was worth paying for to get a slicker, cut-down DAW that still didn't limit me in any way.

Christ, that's a shocker , like seriously, you don't have any competent ability to play an instrument?

Not really, not to the standard I'd imagine an actual musician can. I just bang away at the keys with absolutely no finesse and my timing is horrible, despite doing at least an hour of rehearsal pretty much every day. I can play what I need to play on stage, and that's about it. 35 years ago I was a much better musician than I am today, because I was forced to be. I had to be able to play chords with my left hand and melodies with my right, while I was singing, because I only had two mono sequencers and a drum machine to do the backing. But even then, I couldn't jam with anyone else, or play along by ear/feel, to save my f**king life and these days I only play one thing at a time, usually just mono lines, and I try to avoid singing and playing at the same time. It just doesn't interest me. The best way I can put it is that I think of myself as a vocalist - nothing feels better than belting out a song really loud. That's why I love going to live gigs, where you can scream your lungs out without people really hearing you.

[Torchlight]

Out of curiosity what's the UK pricing of the upgrade including VAT?

£134.99 while a straight conversion of the dollar price would be £115. You can probably buy an upgrade code from a US retailer more cheaply than buying from Presonus.

[apoclypse]

One very interesting feature for the clip launcher is the playlist feature. I really wish Ableton, Bitwig and especially Force had something like that. I hate having to record or drag and drop in my song structure, especially in Ableton Live. One thing I like about Presonus, they alway add that little extra sauce to stuff that makes the workflow better.

That being said I'm skipping this one. I really don't like the upgrade pricing structure and don't feel right supporting it.

[BONES]

Yeah, it feels like we need to make a stand. Unfortunately, this is likely to get them a lot of new users, so they probably won't give a flying fig about us, they'll see it as a great success.

[jamcat]

(although I can't think of anything I care about less than rounded or hard corners).

I care because it's the one thing you can't hide in Studio One. So those corners will always be there, forever mocking us; a bitter reminder of our betrayal.

Somehow you think your the only one on this forum who is a musician who plays an instrument .

Obviously that's not true. I imagine he assumes that most of us who choose Studio One are.

Yes, that's right. Or at least it was. Studio One was always the DAW for scoring dignified music, not cheap thrills. A different caliber of musician used Studio One: Refined gentlemen of exquisite taste. Now, our once great bastion lays in ruins, as it is sacked by the uncivilised hordes of beatmakers.