how would you get the Boss DC-2 effect using delay?

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I really like the sound of the Boss Dimension-C DC-2 (which is a pedal version of the Roland SDD-320) it doesn't bend pitch like chorus does.

from what I gather, it delays the signal about 35 ms and uses a low-frequency oscillator to vary that delay time back and forth, then re-introduces the original signal to the delayed signal. the result is a doubling effect at different delay times to make what could be described as "motionless chorus".

but I use a VST host with plugins and even if I did use hardware I couldn't spend 200$ on 1 effect pedal.

so how would you get the Boss DC-2 effect using a delay plugin? I'm not aware of any delays that oscillate delay time.

or is there a plugin that emulates the DC-2?

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Plenty of Dimension-D rack clones out there:

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frantic_fingers wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:02 pm from what I gather, it delays the signal about 35 ms and uses a low-frequency oscillator to vary that delay time back and forth, then re-introduces the original signal to the delayed signal.
This is quite literally the definition of a chorus effect

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bk wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:57 pm
frantic_fingers wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:02 pm from what I gather, it delays the signal about 35 ms and uses a low-frequency oscillator to vary that delay time back and forth, then re-introduces the original signal to the delayed signal.
This is quite literally the definition of a chorus effect
chorus does something different. the pitch gets oscillated too.

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Micro pitch shift is motionless chorusing.

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frantic_fingers wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:39 pm
bk wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:57 pm
frantic_fingers wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:02 pm from what I gather, it delays the signal about 35 ms and uses a low-frequency oscillator to vary that delay time back and forth, then re-introduces the original signal to the delayed signal.
This is quite literally the definition of a chorus effect
chorus does something different. the pitch gets oscillated too.
no, it doesn't. The pitch-variation comes from the signal practically constantly speeding up and slowing down.

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Trailbender - a free delay plugin that can do delay times in that range, and modulate it with an LFO - Some of the modulation presets are worth checking out. I'm not saying it will sound like a dimension c, but chorusing and flanging are possible if you want to experiment.

https://www.signalperspective.com/2023/ ... ailbender/

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CapnLockheed wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:26 pm Plenty of Dimension-D rack clones out there:

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thanks a bunch. some of those are free, I am going to try out the VDimension, Quadro-D, DimensionExpander and TrailBender.

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bk wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:57 pm
frantic_fingers wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:02 pm from what I gather, it delays the signal about 35 ms and uses a low-frequency oscillator to vary that delay time back and forth, then re-introduces the original signal to the delayed signal.
This is quite literally the definition of a chorus effect
ISTR seeing a chart listing the delay times of several popular chorus boxes and most ranged between 6-11 ms. The Rockman had a predelay of 20 ms.
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frantic_fingers wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:02 pm from what I gather, it delays the signal about 35 ms and uses a low-frequency oscillator to vary that delay time back and forth, then re-introduces the original signal to the delayed signal. the result is a doubling effect at different delay times to make what could be described as "motionless chorus".
As already said, that's the principle of how chorus is usually done. However the 'motionless' chorus of the Dimension C is because it used two delay lines, which are described as 'being out of phase with each other.'
That could possiblyy be interpreted a couple of ways, but looking at a block diagram of the Waza version, and some notes on a clone, there's a single LFO, and that modulates both delay lines, but with the modulation inverted on one of them.
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