One Synth Challenge #188: Six-Traq by Full Bucket Music (Taron Won!)
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- KVRAF
- 2390 posts since 7 Mar, 2014
I did suggest the muted trumpet idea because in the section 3min onwards there is a hint of it in there. Even pulling that instrument up in the mix (and tweaking it) might give the "illusion" of such an instrument? If you see/hear what I mean.
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- KVRAF
- 3204 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
Absolutely do! You're very right! I might have another look at some point, whereby I have to admit that I really gravitate more towards something a bit more abstract for some reason. Not sure... will see/hear. Again, great call, though! 
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- KVRer
- 14 posts since 24 Jul, 2024
this is giving SEM vibes
- KVRAF
- 3204 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
Eh, I assume you don't mean my little ditty, right?
Just looked up SEM and found some sort of autotune sung pop tracks.
Forgive me, if you didn't mean mine.
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- KVRian
- 804 posts since 14 Apr, 2019
They mean Cherry SEM. Synth from 184 I think. Which had an awesome karplus strong delay.
- KVRAF
- 3204 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
"They"? Legendary? I'm too old for this world..
...GOOD, very good, big relief. Rob and I got a bit carried away, I think. AH, you mean the Synthesizer Expander Module, yeah... ...what?
Eh, that's almost as funny a comparison, hehe. Cherry Audio does that stuff for a living and even that little synth module shows it. Nevermind the mono of it vs. polyphonic of SixTraq.
However, with the track layering of SixTraq it turns into a very different thing altogether, really. That somehow makes it feel like a complete synth, rather than the SEM, even if it's awesome at that.
The load-up time for their stuff is terribly annoying, though, since it still goes through a web connection first and that can take time...
Indeed I had started a track, but never finished it.
Eh, that's almost as funny a comparison, hehe. Cherry Audio does that stuff for a living and even that little synth module shows it. Nevermind the mono of it vs. polyphonic of SixTraq.
However, with the track layering of SixTraq it turns into a very different thing altogether, really. That somehow makes it feel like a complete synth, rather than the SEM, even if it's awesome at that.
The load-up time for their stuff is terribly annoying, though, since it still goes through a web connection first and that can take time...
Indeed I had started a track, but never finished it.
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- KVRist
- 73 posts since 17 Sep, 2008
The frustration continues... After modifying and recording a program for the first time, I can't modify/record it anymore, and the Record/Store Program menu keeps adding items every time I open the plugin.
Pray for me and send me strength to finish my piece, guys
Pray for me and send me strength to finish my piece, guys
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The Sound Of Merlin The Sound Of Merlin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=549788
- KVRist
- 181 posts since 29 Jan, 2022
Here is my contribution to OSC #188
Thank you Björn for this beautiful synthesiser! It is really great! I have used its multi-timbrality but not much. Along the way I haven't encountered any problems with Clap version 1.0.3
I would also like to thank my friend Taron whose amazing presets I was allowed to study and use. Percussion, choirs and bell sounds were made based on his presets.
Synth: 34 instances of Six-Traq
DAW: REAPER v 7.24
FX: Spring-Box and Echo Cycles by Geraint Luff, Panagement 2, Room Reverb, Deelay, SuperMassive and Tempo Delay by Voxengo. Graphic EQ, Marvel GEQ, Frank CS, Stereo Touch, A1StereoControl, TDR Nova and Limiter no6
https://soundcloud.com/thesoundofmerlin ... ni-osc-188
Thank you Björn for this beautiful synthesiser! It is really great! I have used its multi-timbrality but not much. Along the way I haven't encountered any problems with Clap version 1.0.3
I would also like to thank my friend Taron whose amazing presets I was allowed to study and use. Percussion, choirs and bell sounds were made based on his presets.
Synth: 34 instances of Six-Traq
DAW: REAPER v 7.24
FX: Spring-Box and Echo Cycles by Geraint Luff, Panagement 2, Room Reverb, Deelay, SuperMassive and Tempo Delay by Voxengo. Graphic EQ, Marvel GEQ, Frank CS, Stereo Touch, A1StereoControl, TDR Nova and Limiter no6
https://soundcloud.com/thesoundofmerlin ... ni-osc-188
- KVRAF
- 3204 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
Just try to imagine an 14 year old prodigy like that!
Makes me incredibly proud and I feel immensely honoured,
TSoM! 
Besides that it's only fair, considering the consistent and brilliant support you're giving me on all fronts!

Makes me incredibly proud and I feel immensely honoured,
Besides that it's only fair, considering the consistent and brilliant support you're giving me on all fronts!
- KVRAF
- 2481 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
Just a note about voting as there have been plenty of posts about this. So why not do one myself and show some different aspects:
First: I will more and more count on mixing. I'm really surprised that some fundemental mixing mistakes go unnoticed, i.e. nobody comments on it ... one track in the last round even lost all of it's off beat bass somehow which kills the rhythm flow... hm? And what I really would recommend: Check out the "mud" area. 5 minutes ago I came from a mix session which I would call balanced and listend to a track. If ypu pile up to a wall of unpleasant resonance around 300hz that feels unpleasant. You can control that by sound design, composition and mixing techniques ...https://www.musicguymixing.com/muddy-mix/. Don't try to fix it in mastering it's too late.
Next point is: I figure there are tracks that somehow despearately seek attention in being "different", this is just my personal perception. I will therefore vote on main stream radio/club compatibility. That includes fluid groove and danceability.
If you like, think of a kraftwerk mindset: Easy patterns, repetitive, straightforward, technically excellence, though simple but yet powerful. "Being Difficult" has never been a value of kraftwerks stuff.
First: I will more and more count on mixing. I'm really surprised that some fundemental mixing mistakes go unnoticed, i.e. nobody comments on it ... one track in the last round even lost all of it's off beat bass somehow which kills the rhythm flow... hm? And what I really would recommend: Check out the "mud" area. 5 minutes ago I came from a mix session which I would call balanced and listend to a track. If ypu pile up to a wall of unpleasant resonance around 300hz that feels unpleasant. You can control that by sound design, composition and mixing techniques ...https://www.musicguymixing.com/muddy-mix/. Don't try to fix it in mastering it's too late.
Next point is: I figure there are tracks that somehow despearately seek attention in being "different", this is just my personal perception. I will therefore vote on main stream radio/club compatibility. That includes fluid groove and danceability.
If you like, think of a kraftwerk mindset: Easy patterns, repetitive, straightforward, technically excellence, though simple but yet powerful. "Being Difficult" has never been a value of kraftwerks stuff.
- KVRist
- 202 posts since 26 Jul, 2023 from France
Such a cruel lack of open-mindedness!] Peter:H [ wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:42 amI will therefore vote on main stream radio/club compatibility. That includes fluid groove and danceability.
If you like, think of a kraftwerk mindset: Easy patterns, repetitive, straightforward, technically excellence, though simple but yet powerful. "Being Difficult" has never been a value of kraftwerks stuff.
- KVRAF
- 3204 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
I felt triggered by the "dancibility" nonsense, too.
...sorry Peter, I mean, it's a good post, but that part is just silly. It's not a dance-track competition, but a synth music challenge...even a sound design challenge more than anything regarding dancing. How many tracks come along which I appreciate for their qualities, but which would chase me out of a club within seconds, pfffhahaha. So, yeah, revisit that last point on your rating criteria for your own sake! 
- KVRAF
- 2481 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
Don't mix up actio & reactioMonsieur_FyP wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:20 amSuch a cruel lack of open-mindedness!] Peter:H [ wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:42 amI will therefore vote on main stream radio/club compatibility. That includes fluid groove and danceability.
If you like, think of a kraftwerk mindset: Easy patterns, repetitive, straightforward, technically excellence, though simple but yet powerful. "Being Difficult" has never been a value of kraftwerks stuff.
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The Sound Of Merlin The Sound Of Merlin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=549788
- KVRist
- 181 posts since 29 Jan, 2022
I don't agree with Taron on this. I think it's quite interesting if everyone would write down their most important criteria while voting. It tells us something about their personal backgrounds and how they make or want to make music. That can be interesting.Taron wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:30 am I felt triggered by the "dancibility" nonsense, too....sorry Peter, I mean, it's a good post, but that part is just silly. It's not a dance-track competition, but a synth music challenge...even a sound design challenge more than anything regarding dancing. How many tracks come along which I appreciate for their qualities, but which would chase me out of a club within seconds, pfffhahaha. So, yeah, revisit that last point on your rating criteria for your own sake!
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The only thing we should be careful of is that we don't start to categorise ourselves in all kinds of small subdivisions cause in the end we may all end up being alone again.
The only thing I disagree of in Peter's post is his remark on "music that screams for attention". That feels so judging and unfriendly. As if someone who makes music with integrity and coming from the heart is worth less compared to more mainstream, generally accepted, popular and/or dancable music?
My criteria for voting are all about feeling a personal connection with what I am listening to. I just sit down and listen and feel. I love it when competitors like Silver Pants, Elex, El Vicente and SeBear (I could name more of course) always come up with something very special and quite dramatic. Their music touches me. And there are some musicians who are absolutely great at what they do and whatever synth is challenging us, they will come up with wonderful pro-sounding results: Vert, Milkster, Taron, Jasinski, ZioMau (I could name more of course). My criteria have nothing to do with being fair or honest since how can we monitor those vague things?
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- KVRian
- 804 posts since 14 Apr, 2019
I don't want to seem like I'm criticizing but it makes more sense to directly comment to the person instead of just putting it out there so 20 people can wonder if you meant them.
(To be clear, I'm not wondering that. But I imagine others are, maybe).
Edit: I'm responding to Peter saying many have bad mixing.
(To be clear, I'm not wondering that. But I imagine others are, maybe).
Edit: I'm responding to Peter saying many have bad mixing.
