T2: Anyone else getting that sinking feeling?

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bithead wrote:Mark my words, there will be no more significant T2 features announced. If I am wrong and more features are announced, they will be a) actually bugs marketed as features, b) features that have lots of bugs because they were added hastily at the last minute and thus were not fully tested, or c) features that nobody really wants or needs, such as support for Mackie hardware.
bithead wrote:I'm not a clairvoyant, I didn't predict the outcome.
could have fooled me.

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MIDI sync, Step sequencing, 64/192 support, skinnable/customisable GUI, more to come... no I've not got a sinking feeling at all :)

But I'll be well pissed off if the helicopter doesn't work :wink:

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Lunch Money wrote:Tell you what-- quote me some of my unreasonable rants and personal attacks back to me.
I'm not about to go through all 2500+ of your posts on KvR, so I searched just on this thread. Here you go....mostly just insulting and condescending to the general reader, but then you get personal towards me, and I honestly can't see any reason for it.
"Our" being a select group. Some of us aren't getting that sinking feeling. Nothing's more boring than people whinging when there's nothing to go on yet. Save it till the release and THEN complain about this, that, or the other feature that you wanted and didn't get.
Of course there will be better MIDI, BUT-- and I'm sure you know this already: TRACKTION IS A f**king AUDIO SEQUENCER, AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN. Can't figure out why people go on... and on... and on... and on... and on... about the damned MIDI. They've heard it!
Even the pope wants you to shut the f**k up.
It's common knowledge that Jules wrote Tracktion with his own needs in mind
Wait until the f**king thing's released before you start raining on people's parades.
I fail to see the point of pre-emptive whining.
Further-- how do you get off assessing my personality like that, you asshole? You don't even know me or the things I go through on a daily basis for other people. So f**k off.

At this point you made it personal. Perhaps in response to my remark about Mackie "stringing along all you breathless fanboys". But then you said you didn't know what "fanboy" meant. Note that I used the collective "you" in the sense of a group.
I fail to see where you've become an expert, and frankly your argument is very weak. Furthermore, you start throwing out unfounded insults to people you don't even know, just because they happen to have a differing opinion. Get your head checked.


Personal attacks again! I didn't insult you.
Trust me, you don't know shit.
Personal again! And I still didn't insult you.
company with whom you have no affiliation and about whose inner workings you have no direct knowledge.

So, just for the sake of clarity: "You don't know shit about the feature list until it's been announced as complete."
You seem to know a lot about me. Marketing shrink wrap software is about the same in any sector. Details vary greatly, but the general strategy rarely does. I can see where T2 is going. Trust me. :)

It seems I've made the mistake of offering my considered opinion in a thread (or perhaps forum?) where it isn't welcome. Sorry to rain on your parade kids. Perhaps one day in the future you'll see what I've been talking about. I sincerely hope all of you (individual and collective) are as passionate about the rest of your lives as you are about a computer program.

bithead

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:zzz:

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cbit wrote:
bithead wrote:I'm not a clairvoyant, I didn't predict the outcome.
could have fooled me.
Actually I was referring to the fact that I did not predict the outcome of T2, as in what features it would or would not have. That would be groundhogging. :)



bithead

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Hmmm, absolutey f**k-all resembling a personal attack by Lunch Money on you there, bithead. Not until after you started making personal attacks yourself.

In fact the fact that you can post
It's common knowledge that Jules wrote Tracktion with his own needs in mind
as 'proof' the Lunch Money was personally attacking you kind of puts you in the 'deranged paranoic' category. It definitely makes you a grade one hypocrite, because you definitely started insulting him on a personal basis first.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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so far you have given me ZERO reason to retract my closing statement! :D
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.

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whyterabbyt wrote:Hmmm, absolutey f**k-all resembling a personal attack by Lunch Money on you there, bithead. Not until after you started making personal attacks yourself.

In fact the fact that you can post
It's common knowledge that Jules wrote Tracktion with his own needs in mind
as 'proof' the Lunch Money was personally attacking you kind of puts you in the 'deranged paranoic' category. It definitely makes you a grade one hypocrite, because you definitely started insulting him on a personal basis first.
No, that would fall under "Unreasonable rants" as requested by Mr. Lunch Money. You are correct, however, that personal attacks came later. Perhaps you would be so kind as to quote the text where I supposedly personally attacked Mr. Lunch Money.

And lest I be too obtuse, I don't appreciate you personally insulting me in this post, either. No dog in the fight, as it were.

BTW, I was thinking about calling both of you "ignorant childish fucktards with no life and nothing better to do but troll on KvR at 3AM" but I immediately realized that would've been a senseless personal attack, and would do nothing to help steer the thread back on topic. So have a nice day y'all.


bithead

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hmm.. i was THINKING of upgrading you to a womble but i'll see how you continue to act first...
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.

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haydxn wrote:hmm.. i was THINKING of upgrading you to a womble but i'll see how you continue to act first...
:lol:

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haydxn wrote:hmm.. i was THINKING of upgrading you to a womble but i'll see how you continue to act first...
Oh dear, oh dear, what ever shall I do?
I have upset all the animals in the Tracktion fanboy zoo!
Oh me, oh my, I don't know what to say!
Someone call the zoo keeper to take them all away!

The above may be considered public domain, that is, unless you make some money off it.

bithead

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bithead wrote:
haydxn wrote:hmm.. i was THINKING of upgrading you to a womble but i'll see how you continue to act first...
Oh dear, oh dear, what ever shall I do?
I have upset all the animals in the Tracktion fanboy zoo!
Oh me, oh my, I don't know what to say!
Someone call the zoo keeper to take them all away!

The above may be considered public domain, that is, unless you make some money off it.

bithead
It could be hard to get it past the new "Pants" tool :P

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Now, calm down children.... it is just a piece of software. Now go and play with your toys eh.... instruments and make some great music.

All will be revealed in a couple of weeks 8)

Hugs to you all! /falke
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bithead quoth

No, that would fall under "Unreasonable rants" as requested by Mr. Lunch Money.

Well, you're similarly deluded then, no matter how you describe it.

You are correct, however, that personal attacks came later.

Yes, when you started them. Lets just recap this thing about presonal attacks. Y'know, with some facts.
Well, yes, your reasoning is sick, and your arguments are weak and tired....no wonder you're frustrated. You really need to focus on the discussion points I am making and stop making personal attacks
At that point he had made no personal attacks on you. But you had made severeal 'unreasonable rants'.

Perhaps you would be so kind as to quote the text where I supposedly personally attacked Mr. Lunch Money.

Oh yeah, how bout this. You call him a snob when you misudnerstand what he's saying when he talks about loop recording. That's a personal attack.
I can't figure out why people are such snobs about audio loops
So is saying
Well, yes, your reasoning is sick, and your arguments are weak and tired....no wonder you're frustrated.
And lest I be too obtuse, I don't appreciate you personally insulting me in this post, either.

Tough. I dont give a f**k what you appreciate. You're a liar, a hyprocrite, and a self-righteous and self-important twat who can't handle being contradicted without making it personal and attacking people. So deal with it.

TW, I was thinking about calling both of you "ignorant childish fucktards with no life

Got us confused with yourself then had you?

and nothing better to do but troll on KvR at 3AM"

Guess you dont know the meaning of the word troll and are too stupid to work out that its actually lunchtime in Europe.

but I immediately realized that would've been a senseless personal attack

Amazing you've suddenly realised some restraint.

and would do nothing to help steer the thread back on topic

Oh yeah, all the whining...

So have a nice day y'all.

You too petal. Have fun being a 'degreed software expert.'
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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falkelab wrote:Now, calm down children.... it is just a piece of software. Now go and play with your toys eh.... instruments and make some great music.

All will be revealed in a couple of weeks 8)

Hugs to you all! /falke
Reminds me of
"Ballad of Dwight Frye"
by Alice Cooper.

I think I lost some weight there, and I
I know I need some rest
Sleepin' don't come very easy
In a straight white vest

Sure like to see that little children
She's only four years old, oh
I'd give her back all of her playthings
Even, even the ones I stole

bithead
asshole, jackass, twat, womble
What ever!

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