Wave Alchemy Tapewave

[NAD]

I can see adding a dry/wet just to the wow & flutter section for those who insist on using this as a chorus, but for the other stuff it would probably introduce too much weird phase cancellation stuff.

The other stuff it does is mostly compression and distortion. It's extremely common for compression and distortion plugins to have mix knobs, with no phase issues.

I hear what your saying and that's totally valid. I was thinking more about the tonal stuff which afaik can involve phase shifts at different frequencies. FWIW, in Reaper with dry/wet set to 50 and age, drive, comp, wow+flutter all at zero, I'm definitely hearing weird phase stuff, in fact it even sounds like there might be a tiny bit of unreported latency.

[Synthman2000]

Who wants cassette tape sound everywhere ? Idiots ?

I tend not to trust what people say on forums as it has proven incredibly unreliable. Even less so Youtube sales people.

Cassette has been done before and well. Go slowly, download demos and listen that is how you work out if software is for you.

The idea bank has truly run dry for software developers.

[revvy]

You know that feel when you click ‘Display this post’ and then instantly regret it? I know that feel.

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[careyletendre]

I tend not to trust what people say on forums as it has proven incredibly unreliable.

[kraster]

Who wants cassette tape sound everywhere ? Idiots ?

I tend not to trust what people say on forums as it has proven incredibly unreliable. Even less so Youtube sales people.

Cassette has been done before and well. Go slowly, download demos and listen that is how you work out if software is for you.

The idea bank has truly run dry for software developers.

I remember using Amp Farm on Pro Tools in 1999 and thinking "that's it, sell all your amps".

I listened to it recently and it sounds like a bee in a bottle.

Not everything is the final form of something. Things are iterated upon and improve.

I think I prefer the sound of tapewave to just about any other cassette sim.

Surely "sounding better than everything else" should count for something.

[hey212]

I can see adding a dry/wet just to the wow & flutter section for those who insist on using this as a chorus, but for the other stuff it would probably introduce too much weird phase cancellation stuff.

The other stuff it does is mostly compression and distortion. It's extremely common for compression and distortion plugins to have mix knobs, with no phase issues.

I hear what your saying and that's totally valid. I was thinking more about the tonal stuff which afaik can involve phase shifts at different frequencies. FWIW, in Reaper with dry/wet set to 50 and age, drive, comp, wow+flutter all at zero, I'm definitely hearing weird phase stuff, in fact it even sounds like there might be a tiny bit of unreported latency.

Oh interesting. Ya if the DAW's latency compensation is not spot on, and you use the DAW to do a wet/dry mix, you've basically made a homemade flanger so that will be audible. That's part of the benefit of a mix knob on a plugin, it can compensate for latency internally.

Also as a last resort, if there is some kind of super unpredictable latency or phase shift coming from the section of the plugin that does filtering, they could leave that section in the dry signal path so the signals are identical, and just allow you to mix everything else.

[Burillo]

age does appear to change a lot of internal parameters, as I can clearly hear stereo image shifting as well as new artifacts appearing when "age" is turned clockwise. maybe it does more stuff on some tape types than others, but it is quite clearly not a "filter" IMO.

[hey212]

You could substitute the term "magical fairy dust" for "filtering" in my post, and all of the points about handling phase shift or latency still apply.

[multree]

Briefly tested the demo and I do prefer the Wavesfactory one.

[jens]

You could substitute the term "magical fairy dust" for "filtering" in my post, and all of the points about handling phase shift or latency still apply.

He was replying to bmanic's post (from the last page).

[hey212]

I see now thanks, just immediately followed my use of the same term. In any case, could certainly be more than filtering going on.

[bmanic]

age does appear to change a lot of internal parameters, as I can clearly hear stereo image shifting as well as new artifacts appearing when "age" is turned clockwise. maybe it does more stuff on some tape types than others, but it is quite clearly not a "filter" IMO.

My point was that "the filter" is so OBVIOUS and so front and center that all the other stuff gets masked to almost oblivion.

Would be nice if we could choose to minimize the filtering effect.

[wave alchemy]

Stupid question, has it been programmed by guys from AudioThing? DSP wise...

No, it hasn't.

[wave alchemy]

Will there be a notification on here once the fix is ready?

For those that have purchased Tapewave, yes. The fix is already applied, and we'll update the installers later today. I will of course let you know on this forum too once those installers are live

[Download SOphist]

on first hearing I thing I actually prefer this plugin to my other tape degraders, but may I ask why the big size ? is it IR related? even the humongous (as is normal with softube) dirty tape is half the size of tapewave. chow tape model is a 10th of the size.