iLOK warning

[martinjuenke]

This discussion was, is and will be brought up by guys with
- outdated computer systems and / or
- highly modified computer systems and / or
- limited technical knowledge and / or
- limited reading capabilities an / or
- other amateurish behaviour.
Always.

[t.o.t.s.]

Just interesting. How many pro sound engineers or composers don't use Ilok?..

It probably depends on what you mean by pro. If you mean that as their income is exclusively based around sound work, then there are probably some. I think it depends a lot on what industry you are in and what you are doing in it. For me personally, as my worked scaled so did my need to work with iLok licensed software. If a client has or uses something and gives me a project to pick up or finish... it helps to have whatever tools they started out with.

[Lerian]

This discussion was, is and will be brought up by guys with
- outdated computer systems and / or
- highly modified computer systems and / or
- limited technical knowledge and / or
- limited reading capabilities an / or
- other amateurish behaviour.
Always.

Also you might be wrong. And you seem to be quite confused, as many of those points you listed kind of exclude each other.

But hey, I know that Stockholm syndrome is real. I also know that confirmation bias is more present than ever.

[whyterabbyt]

many of those points you listed kind of exclude each other.

If only he'd pointed that out by using the word 'or'

[Alexander_D]

Hmmm. Really? All of them? Must have Ilok plugins?

[Lerian]

many of those points you listed kind of exclude each other.

If only he'd pointed that out by using the word 'or'

I was trying to be nice. All those assumptions are shallow, and those points are just assumptions to justify some personal views. In reality, ilok really is a PITA for many users - that's why many big companies ditched it. And in many cases, the more advanced you are, the less you are willing to accept its annoyances.

PS: If I may, I also have a personal observation - ilok advocates are those people who call PT an industry standard The same ones who need to see credentials to be able to assess something or someone's value.

PPS: ilok is a dying business. If you don't believe me, ask them.

[whyterabbyt]

All those assumptions are shallow

just like this one, then....

And in many cases, the more advanced you are, the less you are willing to accept its annoyances.

and this one

ilok advocates are those people who call PT an industry standard

.

[Lerian]

just like this one, then....

And in many cases, the more advanced you are, the less you are willing to accept its annoyances.

and this one

ilok advocates are those people who call PT an industry standard

.

Those are real life observations, not assumptions. Anyway, I wasn't expecting for you to change your views. You seem to believe that ilok protects developers, which is not true. It only annoys customers.

[whyterabbyt]

Those are real life observations, not assumptions.

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They're as real observations as the ones you called assumptions, and no more so.

You seem to believe that ilok protects developers

No I really dont seem to, because that's not a thing Ive ever opined on, so there's nothing on which to assess what I believe about that. You, on the other hand, seem to just make stuff up.

[Lerian]

No I really dont seem to, because that's not a thing Ive ever opined on, so there's nothing on which to assess what I believe about that. You, on the other hand, seem to just make stuff up.

Yes I did assumed that you do. You are here arguing with me, so my assumption is 80% correct.

But anyway, it doesn't really matter. As I said in a different thread, ilok as a business is going bankrupt. And as a business model, it will be a lesson to future developers. You don't punish your paying users for something they didn't do, while protecting nothing. Its just bad business.

[whyterabbyt]

Yes I did assumed that you do. You are here arguing with me, so my assumption is 80% correct.

Im correcting statements you are making that are false. That predicates exactly 0% about my opinion on something completely different from those incorrect statements.

[Lerian]

Yes I did assumed that you do. You are here arguing with me, so my assumption is 80% correct.

Im correcting statements you are making that are false. That predicates exactly 0% about my opinion on something completely different from those incorrect statements.

Good for you. Good luck!

[MrJubbly]

Didn't see this posted yet, pretty big for iLok to get Autotune back on their roster

https://www.antarestech.com/community/a ... -pace-ilok

We brought back iLok because our previous licensing platform was causing difficulties for the Auto-Tune user community. We heard the feedback loud and clear, and want to earn back your trust. PACE iLok is the industry standard for plugin licensing and we're confident that this change will have a positive impact on Auto-Tune users' experience.

Phew! It's a good job that I don't use Autotune, then. And now, for certain, never will. To be honest, I was under the mistaken impression that Autotune was still iLok protected already, which is a prime reason why I've never really considered using the software. But this "switcheroo" announcement is a prime example of why I don't purchase from or trust any developers who do use iLok.

Imagine being a customer who bought their software under a non-iLok licence on that very basis, only for the developers to renege and subsequently re-impose iLok on those same customers.

I appreciate the update, to be informed of news like this though. As it's a helpful reminder to never trust that certain iLok plugin developers, won't suddenly revert back to using it at a later date, if/when they had previously offered other alternative protection systems. This proves there's always a chance they'll relapse back, like in this example.

I'm at least grateful for the always useful official list of iLok publishers, which conveniently doubles as my own personal boycott list for software developers, whose plugins I'll never use. I guess, if I notice one of these developers do have a change of heart and offer a different protection system, I'll be super wary now of a similar situation also occurring for those devs in the future.

Give me the amazing super user-friendly protection system developers like Fabfilter, u-he, or a Kilohearts, etc., any day of the week, over any of these PACE/iLok vendors.

[josb]

That's a great list, thanks for the link!

[BBFG#]

Does iZotope and Nomad require it or just offer it as an alternative though?
I know I still own some of their plugins, but haven't had them installed for quite awhile. I'm not nearly as anti towards a company that simply offers it as I am towards companies that require it.