Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

[Gribs]

If Trump's tariffs go through will they apply to music software and samples (etc.)? 20% tariffs on all non-Chinese foreign goods, more on Chinese, so I'd suppose they would... and how much of that will be passed on to US customers---everything from non-US companies about 20% more expensive for those of us in the US, or not nearly so much?... Granted software pricing tends to be more flexible than hardware...

I don't know about that, but it is likely many small electronics companies, e.g. Eurorack Module and boutique synth builders, will go out of business. Many are on the edge already and some never recovered from the combo of the first round of tariffs along with the chip shortage during the pandemic.

[revvy]

Just read an article in the FT by Robert Lighthizer, the man invited to run US trade policy.

I can’t predict accurately how much of the increase in cost caused by tariffs will be passed onto the consumer (I can guess though) but if software isn’t included, it seens it would be as an oversight rather than a plan.

[BBFG#]

If Trump's tariffs go through will they apply to music software and samples (etc.)? 20% tariffs on all non-Chinese foreign goods, more on Chinese, so I'd suppose they would... and how much of that will be passed on to US customers---everything from non-US companies about 20% more expensive for those of us in the US, or not nearly so much?... Granted software pricing tends to be more flexible than hardware...

Doubtful.
Let's not project this thread into a 5-15 page needless politicism.

[Ou_Tis]

Let's not project this thread into a 5-15 page needless politicism.

This has nothing to do with whether we support the tariffs or not (who doesn't like paying more?). And, if enacted (which the president can do unilaterally without congressional approval), they almost certainly will apply to software and sample sets.

Personally, since I'm in the US, I'm going to stick to non-US software/hardware until they're either implemented or abandoned. That removes Eventide, Soundtoys, Izotope, and Relab from my BF list. I'd assume it won't differentially affect US vs non-US resellers though.

[BBFG#]

Stop, really, stop. Quit projecting. Let this thread be about the current plugins and the current deals.

[revvy]

discussion, gossip, etc.

We’re talking about potential price increases. Currently, like adults too.

[kidslow]

Currently, like adults too.

Oh that'll change.

[revvy]

Currently, like adults too.

Oh that'll change.

TBF, we don’t have to be talking about tariffs to devolve into childish bickering:)

[ROTMetro]

Stop, really, stop. Quit projecting. Let this thread be about the current plugins and the current deals.

Discussion of hardware/plugin pricing is the point of this subforum. That the future admin has said they are going to raise prices by adding tariffs to the price of foreign goods/components, and that people here might want to buy accordingly now, is directly relevant to this subject. People can then choose to spend today on impacted goods and buy non-impacted products in the future. Low margin boutique products (as pointed out) that can't stock up ahead of tariffs run the risk of insolvency, so if there's something you want, you may want to purchase prior to that. Why do you want to limit people's exposure to information about making smart economic purchases?

This is basic economics and has zero political content/implications.

[BBFG#]

Fear mongering for something that hasn't happened. If it does, then it's worth discussing. Until then, it's in all our best interest to stay in the present.

[ROTMetro]

Fear mongering for something that hasn't happened. If it does, then it's worth discussing. Until then, it's in all our best interest to stay in the present.

It is basic high school economics not fear mongering.

In the present, the prices on impacted goods are lower than they are going to be next year. We are talking about making purchases in the present. That is an economic statement, not political, not fear mongering.

[revvy]

Fear mongering for something that hasn't happened. If it does, then it's worth discussing. Until then, it's in all our best interest to stay in the present.

Yeah, like the thread never had speculation and what ifs before and was always grounded in the present.

Discussions was fine till you derailed it.

Down with that sort of thing!!

[BBFG#]

Maybe try some of those anxiety techniques they're suggesting for the lesser half to come back closer to today. I suggest taking a breath and staying in the next three weeks of BF deals and then onto the holiday give aways. At least move up your projections to after the first of the year.

[ROTMetro]

Maybe try some of those anxiety techniques they're suggesting for the lesser half to come back closer to today. I suggest taking a breath and staying in the next three weeks of BF deals and then onto the holiday give aways. At least move up your projections to after the first of the year.

Nice, bringing in personal attacks by the person who brought up 'the discussion might get derailed'. If you don't think something is a deal, just move on. No need for unfounded personal attacks. Ben Stein's (a Republican) unscripted factual econ lesson in Ferris Bueller is hardly a 'high anxiety' take. Again it's just boring basic high school level economics.

[revvy]

Maybe try some of those anxiety techniques they're suggesting for the lesser half to come back closer to today. I suggest taking a breath and staying in the next three weeks of BF deals and then onto the holiday give aways. At least move up your projections to after the first of the year.

I’m guessing that made more sense in your head than it does written down?