UAD still worth it?

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UAD give a sh*t on loyal customers.

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jtsterays wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:43 am Honestly just buy all the Cytomic plugs, that company is the best at analog modeling. UAD is not the best anymore, but they're still a reliable choice and a safe buy, you won't be disappointed, however there are better alternatives nowadays imo. That said UAD does have some standouts (ATR-102, API Vision...).
I like the drop filter, but how can you say cytomics are better? They only have three plug ins.

To me the UAD Moog filters are both outstanding. Just as good quality as the drop, but or course less flexible.

You mention 2 UAD stand outs, and yes they are good, but they have many plug ins at the same level of quality as those.

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Alexander_D wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:19 am
jtsterays wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:04 am
Alexander_D wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:47 am
jtsterays wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:43 am
Alexander_D wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 7:05 am
koalaboy wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:40 am

Thanks 🙏 maybe I will wait then v2... regarding UAD.. seems that I will skip them.... also for me it's really strange that when I am opening them I have a blurred fx for some seconds. Seems that it a license protection... but it's the pain...
To be fair it's much less of a pain than your inability to trim your replies...

You're the only one missing it out if you don't want UAD.

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_leras wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:42 am
jtsterays wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:43 am Honestly just buy all the Cytomic plugs, that company is the best at analog modeling. UAD is not the best anymore, but they're still a reliable choice and a safe buy, you won't be disappointed, however there are better alternatives nowadays imo. That said UAD does have some standouts (ATR-102, API Vision...).
I like the drop filter, but how can you say cytomics are better? They only have three plug ins.

To me the UAD Moog filters are both outstanding. Just as good quality as the drop, but or course less flexible.

You mention 2 UAD stand outs, and yes they are good, but they have many plug ins at the same level of quality as those.
What I meant was compare to all the other companies, not just Cytomic. If you spend some time forming a plugin collection from various companies, you'd probably get something better than the UAD bundle imo (i did it), but that takes time. But if you don't want to do that then just get UAD, like i said it's still a good buy. And yes they have more than 2 standouts, I didn't want to mention all of them.

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I did that in reverse. Almost every plugin I previously used has been replaced by UAD plugins, with only rare exceptions.
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martinjuenke wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:53 pm UAD give a sh*t on loyal customers.
Looks like it, I contacted them regarding the upgrading prices to signature bundle v2 and my request was listed as a complaint, the current sale that is going on right now is a great offer to enroll new customers but for old or newly enrolled customers in the business they don’t have equivalent upgrading offers. Not nearly as attractive (€217) upgrading price and the bundle is going for €300 for new customers. In my case I already own the signature bundle v1 + 4 plugins that I paid to extend my native plugin collection.

Sacrificing old and newly enrolled customers in an attempt to enroll new customers is ridiculous not only that, software business are built on loyal customers and that’s clearly not the way of creating loyal customers.
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TmS1 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:59 pm .. I already own the signature bundle v1 + 4 plugins that I paid to extend my native plugin collection...
Me too, I paid roughly 600 USD for that bundle.
I see that more or less as sunk money meanwhile because of UADs crazy behaviour in dealing with existing customers.
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martinjuenke wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:53 pm UAD give a sh*t on loyal customers.
They definitely doo

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It makes no sense, wonder if they are going to take care about this? There is 1.402 of people engaging in this Topic if ''UAD is still worth it? some great input and some bad input and what I the great input about this company is regarding how great the emulation of analog gear is, but what about other areas that are important regarding the end user and as business being loyal to the already enrolled customers?
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X =Sarcasm derives from an emotional state thus response seeks destruction an Y =Immoral act.
XeY = ∏ Self destruction.
Efficacious decree determines the event. (cf. Turretin 3.12.21.25) Theology.

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Scotty Ellis wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:51 pm
martinjuenke wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:53 pm UAD give a sh*t on loyal customers.
They definitely doo
How?
X =Sarcasm derives from an emotional state thus response seeks destruction an Y =Immoral act.
XeY = ∏ Self destruction.
Efficacious decree determines the event. (cf. Turretin 3.12.21.25) Theology.

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TmS1 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:00 pm
Scotty Ellis wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:51 pm
martinjuenke wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:53 pm UAD give a sh*t on loyal customers.
They definitely doo
How?
your above post is a prime example. Another is you can't resell any Native plugs
you buy. etc, etc. It's like UAD is is a battle with IK to see who can treat their customers
with more contempt.
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Scotty Ellis wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:03 pm
TmS1 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:00 pm
Scotty Ellis wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:51 pm
martinjuenke wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:53 pm UAD give a sh*t on loyal customers.
They definitely doo
How?
your above post is a prime example. Another is you can't resell any Native plugs
you buy. etc, etc.
What? How is that caring about loyal customers, elaborate.
X =Sarcasm derives from an emotional state thus response seeks destruction an Y =Immoral act.
XeY = ∏ Self destruction.
Efficacious decree determines the event. (cf. Turretin 3.12.21.25) Theology.

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martinjuenke wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:53 pm UAD give a sh*t on loyal customers.
My thoughts too.

I have more than I could use from them anyways. The new release (well newly Native releases) look fun, but I’m not buying more from them.

I am happy they’re not Waves (so far). :party:

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Scotty Ellis wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:03 pm
TmS1 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:00 pm
Scotty Ellis wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:51 pm
martinjuenke wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:53 pm UAD give a sh*t on loyal customers.
They definitely doo
How?
your above post is a prime example. Another is you can't resell any Native plugs
you buy. etc, etc. It's like UAD is is a battle with IK to see who can treat their customers
with more contempt.
It's a market strategy for business growth and UAD has leverage by replicating Analog gear as accurate as possible. that's the hook but what about keeping loyal customers?
X =Sarcasm derives from an emotional state thus response seeks destruction an Y =Immoral act.
XeY = ∏ Self destruction.
Efficacious decree determines the event. (cf. Turretin 3.12.21.25) Theology.

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I have the Essentials edition bundle, and I was considering upgrading to either the Producer bundle or the Signature v2 bundle. I contacted support asking if there were any discounts or upgrade pricing available since I already own one bundle. They said they only offer discounts on the Signature v1 to v2 upgrade. They further suggested I just buy the missing plugins individually (LOL).

I'm kind of torn on this one. Most of the plugins I really want are in the Producer edition, and the current sale price is worth it to me. On the other hand, if I do buy it, I now know for sure that it's essentially wasted money if I ever do want to go for the Signature bundle. I also already have alternatives for probably everything in the Signature bundle, but you know how GAS works :lol:

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