Gullfoss vs Smart:EQ
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- KVRian
- 869 posts since 22 Jan, 2022
I tested Gullfoss and I didn't find it all that much different from Ozone's Stabilizer. I only use this type of dynamic EQ lightly in a mastering context and actually rarely use them at all. Only on sources where I feel there is some missing cohesion in the frequency balance of the instruments... like an EQ version of a 'glue' compressor.
I don't own Smart:EQ, but it looks like a different use case altogether. Why are you looking at this 2 products specifically and what are your use cases?
I don't own Smart:EQ, but it looks like a different use case altogether. Why are you looking at this 2 products specifically and what are your use cases?
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- KVRAF
- 3399 posts since 26 Mar, 2002 from london
They're completely different products. Smart EQ offers automatic EQing based on groups, and I've found the results interesting, but I don't find myself using it much. At times using it has given me clues that I could EQ further and create more separation, but then I tend to do that manually with a normal EQ. The dynamic behaviour is not helpful imo.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1077 posts since 24 Apr, 2008 from USA
for cuttings / taming resonances I use soothe2 lightly and Kirchoff with dynamic bands and often sidechains triggering those dynamic bands.billinder33 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:36 pm I tested Gullfoss and I didn't find it all that much different from Ozone's Stabilizer. I only use this type of dynamic EQ lightly in a mastering context and actually rarely use them at all. Only on sources where I feel there is some missing cohesion in the frequency balance of the instruments... like an EQ version of a 'glue' compressor.
I don't own Smart:EQ, but it looks like a different use case altogether. Why are you looking at this 2 products specifically and what are your use cases?
sometimes I miss having some auto EQ that "intelligently" and dynamically boosts frequencies that need more presence in different spots of the songs, especially on master bus and vocals.
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- KVRian
- 869 posts since 22 Jan, 2022
If you already own a version of Ozone that includes the Stabilizer and some of the other automated/dynamic tools like Clarity and Rebalance, those tools do a pretty good job with adaptive EQ on the master buss. IMO, a light touch is the key to all these tools on the master buss.TS-12 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:36 pmfor cuttings / taming resonances I use soothe2 lightly and Kirchoff with dynamic bands and often sidechains triggering those dynamic bands.billinder33 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:36 pm I tested Gullfoss and I didn't find it all that much different from Ozone's Stabilizer. I only use this type of dynamic EQ lightly in a mastering context and actually rarely use them at all. Only on sources where I feel there is some missing cohesion in the frequency balance of the instruments... like an EQ version of a 'glue' compressor.
I don't own Smart:EQ, but it looks like a different use case altogether. Why are you looking at this 2 products specifically and what are your use cases?
sometimes I miss having some auto EQ that "intelligently" and dynamically boosts frequencies that need more presence in different spots of the songs, especially on master bus and vocals.
I won't typically use these kinds of tools on individual tracks, but don't see why they wouldn't work there as well. I'll generally use a dynamic filter (bell or shelf) in Pro-Q for that kind of thing.
I don't have anything against Gullfoss, it's good/find/ok. But it's pretty expensive and somewhat redundant if you already own the full-blown version of Ozone. Also not a fan of iLok, and I'm slowly trying to eliminate anything iLok dependent from my workflows. Sadly, Soothe and Slate VSX are the only two things stopping my from dumping iLok entirely. I could probably live without VSX, but IMO there's no good Soothe replacement on the market at this time.
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2491 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Gullfoss Live is great. So is Mastering. I never use Standard.
It’s 3 plugins, not one.
I got it on release and nothing has ever replaced it for me.
It’s 3 plugins, not one.
I got it on release and nothing has ever replaced it for me.
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
What are the differences between them?vitocorleone123 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:24 pm Gullfoss Live is great. So is Mastering. I never use Standard.
It’s 3 plugins, not one.
I got it on release and nothing has ever replaced it for me.
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- KVRian
- 919 posts since 7 Sep, 2014
Totally agreed about Ilok. And the same situation.. at this time I have two must have for me - Soothe 2 and Soundtoys bundle on my Ilok account. Thinking to buy Bloom but I think that I will find an alternative for this one. Regarding Soothe and Soundtoys... it's so hard...billinder33 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:37 pmIf you already own a version of Ozone that includes the Stabilizer and some of the other automated/dynamic tools like Clarity and Rebalance, those tools do a pretty good job with adaptive EQ on the master buss. IMO, a light touch is the key to all these tools on the master buss.TS-12 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:36 pmfor cuttings / taming resonances I use soothe2 lightly and Kirchoff with dynamic bands and often sidechains triggering those dynamic bands.billinder33 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:36 pm I tested Gullfoss and I didn't find it all that much different from Ozone's Stabilizer. I only use this type of dynamic EQ lightly in a mastering context and actually rarely use them at all. Only on sources where I feel there is some missing cohesion in the frequency balance of the instruments... like an EQ version of a 'glue' compressor.
I don't own Smart:EQ, but it looks like a different use case altogether. Why are you looking at this 2 products specifically and what are your use cases?
sometimes I miss having some auto EQ that "intelligently" and dynamically boosts frequencies that need more presence in different spots of the songs, especially on master bus and vocals.
I won't typically use these kinds of tools on individual tracks, but don't see why they wouldn't work there as well. I'll generally use a dynamic filter (bell or shelf) in Pro-Q for that kind of thing.
I don't have anything against Gullfoss, it's good/find/ok. But it's pretty expensive and somewhat redundant if you already own the full-blown version of Ozone. Also not a fan of iLok, and I'm slowly trying to eliminate anything iLok dependent from my workflows. Sadly, Soothe and Slate VSX are the only two things stopping my from dumping iLok entirely. I could probably live without VSX, but IMO there's no good Soothe replacement on the market at this time.
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2491 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Latency and resolution. And, therefore, sound.martinjuenke wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:38 pmWhat are the differences between them?vitocorleone123 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:24 pm Gullfoss Live is great. So is Mastering. I never use Standard.
It’s 3 plugins, not one.
I got it on release and nothing has ever replaced it for me.
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