UAD still worth it?

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If you play guitar, Signature is the way to go.

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Signature Edition 2 is a tremendous value for $299. Probably the best UA deal yet.

I would have spent about thrice that price since the last year and a half to get to it.

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waxtrax wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:14 am I have the Essentials edition bundle, and I was considering upgrading to either the Producer bundle or the Signature v2 bundle. I contacted support asking if there were any discounts or upgrade pricing available since I already own one bundle. They said they only offer discounts on the Signature v1 to v2 upgrade. They further suggested I just buy the missing plugins individually (LOL).

I'm kind of torn on this one. Most of the plugins I really want are in the Producer edition, and the current sale price is worth it to me. On the other hand, if I do buy it, I now know for sure that it's essentially wasted money if I ever do want to go for the Signature bundle. I also already have alternatives for probably everything in the Signature bundle, but you know how GAS works :lol:
I got the same offer to buy the individual plugins or upgrade part of €200+. I own signature v1 + 4 other plugins 😆
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LoveEnigma18 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:43 am Signature Edition 2 is a tremendous value for $299. Probably the best UA deal yet.

I would have spent about thrice that price since the last year and a half to get to it.
I agree on the price, just other aspects of valuing the customers are just not there when it comes to UAD.
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XeY = ∏ Self destruction.
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LoveEnigma18 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:43 am Signature Edition 2 is a tremendous value for $299. Probably the best UA deal yet.

I would have spent about thrice that price since the last year and a half to get to it.
That's what I've actually done and therefore I'm p*ssed.

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martinjuenke wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:44 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:43 am Signature Edition 2 is a tremendous value for $299. Probably the best UA deal yet.

I would have spent about thrice that price since the last year and a half to get to it.
That's what I've actually done and therefore I'm p*ssed.
UAD has devalued their plugins dramatically.

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martinjuenke wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:45 am UAD has devalued their plugins dramatically.
UAD plugins still have the same value. It's the same amazing set of great mixing tools.
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martinjuenke wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:45 am
martinjuenke wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:44 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:43 am Signature Edition 2 is a tremendous value for $299. Probably the best UA deal yet.

I would have spent about thrice that price since the last year and a half to get to it.
That's what I've actually done and therefore I'm p*ssed.
UAD has devalued their plugins dramatically.
It's disappointing for sure, but we know it's partially on us too. By the way, even the upgrade to Signature Edition 2 was $199! Now full version is only $299!

I think no more UAD purchases for one year now. We know the pattern now.

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LoveEnigma18 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:12 pm
martinjuenke wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:45 am
martinjuenke wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:44 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:43 am Signature Edition 2 is a tremendous value for $299. Probably the best UA deal yet.

I would have spent about thrice that price since the last year and a half to get to it.
That's what I've actually done and therefore I'm p*ssed.
UAD has devalued their plugins dramatically.
It's disappointing for sure, but we know it's partially on us too. By the way, even the upgrade to Signature Edition 2 was $199! Now full version is only $299!

I think no more UAD purchases for one year now. We know the pattern now.
I’m not buying, but I am curious about their offer.

I see in checkout, there’s a $29 off on the Select 3 deal for $109, making the offer $80 before taxes.

Did anyone purchase yet, and is there another discount after buying?

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elxsound wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:21 pm

I’m not buying, but I am curious about their offer.

I see in checkout, there’s a $29 off on the Select 3 deal for $109, making the offer $80 before taxes.

Did anyone purchase yet, and is there another discount after buying?
I would suggest not doing this. Just save up until you can buy the Signature 2 bundle for $300.

Because if/when you eventually want a Signature X bundle you'll still up end up paying $300. You get no credit towards that from individual plugin purchases.

People buy 3 for $80. Then 6 months later buy another 3 for $80. Then again in 4 months. Then 3 more plugins in the future. And now they've spent $320 for 12 plugins when they could have had all 56 native plugins for $300.

UAD really punishes the impatient and those who are buying because of FOMO.

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I agree with hmusic. If you are looking to get more than a few plugins down the line, better just get Signature Edition 2 and be done with it. It is also the best way to get Topline Vocal Suite if you are interested in it.

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hmusic wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:08 pm
elxsound wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:21 pm

I’m not buying, but I am curious about their offer.

I see in checkout, there’s a $29 off on the Select 3 deal for $109, making the offer $80 before taxes.

Did anyone purchase yet, and is there another discount after buying?
I would suggest not doing this. Just save up until you can buy the Signature 2 bundle for $300.

Because if/when you eventually want a Signature X bundle you'll still up end up paying $300. You get no credit towards that from individual plugin purchases.

People buy 3 for $80. Then 6 months later buy another 3 for $80. Then again in 4 months. Then 3 more plugins in the future. And now they've spent $320 for 12 plugins when they could have had all 56 native plugins for $300.

UAD really punishes the impatient and those who are buying because of FOMO.
Should have mentioned… I have everything except the latest 5 or 6 releases. I still don’t plan on buying because I have things well covered from other vendors. I’m just curious if that’s how they’re doing things this year.

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hmusic wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:08 pm People buy 3 for $80. Then 6 months later buy another 3 for $80. Then again in 4 months. Then 3 more plugins in the future. And now they've spent $320 for 12 plugins when they could have had all 56 native plugins for $300.
All true enough, and for many situations it's good advice and *can* save money in the long run.

However, some people often forget that the game is not about who can get the most tools for the least amount of money - you might want a premium plugin now, but if you want five years, you'll be able to pick it up a lot cheaper. Yes, you saved money, but you also had five years where you couldn't use that tool either (although let's face it, most of us who've been doing this longer than five minutes have most of the tools we usefully need anyway.) But yes, if you have the money, and foresee wanting a lot of the plugins, go for the bundles up front.

Often though, it's a lot more manageable, and justifiable, to pick up the occasional $30 plugin when you fancy it, than ponying up a large amount of cash for a big bundle up front. And especially if you're not going to want to end up buying all the plugins, picking up a few small purchases and then having the time to learn and appreciate them individually, rather than picking up a bundle of 60 plugins can also make sense.

So yes, picking up a big bundle makes sense if you have the money, and you want and can use most of the stuff, but it's not (imo) inherently the best way to buy.

One thing is relatively certain though - if you wait, whatever you want now will be available cheaper. However, you never know when the bottom will be, so if you always wait for the bottom price, you're never going to buy because you think that it might be a bit cheaper six months down the line.

I say, buy the thing that makes sense at a price that makes sense and get some value out if it, even if at some point in the future, someone else may be able to pick it up for a few less bucks.
hmusic wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:08 pmUAD really punishes the impatient and those who are buying because of FOMO.
I don't look at it that way. For sure, if I'd have known the future, I could have saved some money (or ended up with more stuff for the same money), but I don't regret the purchase decisions I made at the time, they seemed good value, and I like, and am using the tools. I don't feel "punished" just because other folks got luckier with better deals in some cases. Good for them! :tu:

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Further, it can lead to choice paralysis. I use around 12 of my UA plugins with any regularity.

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beely wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:21 pm
hmusic wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:08 pm People buy 3 for $80. Then 6 months later buy another 3 for $80. Then again in 4 months. Then 3 more plugins in the future. And now they've spent $320 for 12 plugins when they could have had all 56 native plugins for $300.
All true enough, and for many situations it's good advice and *can* save money in the long run.

However, some people often forget that the game is not about who can get the most tools for the least amount of money - you might want a premium plugin now, but if you want five years, you'll be able to pick it up a lot cheaper. Yes, you saved money, but you also had five years where you couldn't use that tool either (although let's face it, most of us who've been doing this longer than five minutes have most of the tools we usefully need anyway.) But yes, if you have the money, and foresee wanting a lot of the plugins, go for the bundles up front.

Often though, it's a lot more manageable, and justifiable, to pick up the occasional $30 plugin when you fancy it, than ponying up a large amount of cash for a big bundle up front. And especially if you're not going to want to end up buying all the plugins, picking up a few small purchases and then having the time to learn and appreciate them individually, rather than picking up a bundle of 60 plugins can also make sense.

So yes, picking up a big bundle makes sense if you have the money, and you want and can use most of the stuff, but it's not (imo) inherently the best way to buy.

One thing is relatively certain though - if you wait, whatever you want now will be available cheaper. However, you never know when the bottom will be, so if you always wait for the bottom price, you're never going to buy because you think that it might be a bit cheaper six months down the line.

I say, buy the thing that makes sense at a price that makes sense and get some value out if it, even if at some point in the future, someone else may be able to pick it up for a few less bucks.
hmusic wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:08 pmUAD really punishes the impatient and those who are buying because of FOMO.
I don't look at it that way. For sure, if I'd have known the future, I could have saved some money (or ended up with more stuff for the same money), but I don't regret the purchase decisions I made at the time, they seemed good value, and I like, and am using the tools. I don't feel "punished" just because other folks got luckier with better deals in some cases. Good for them! :tu:
It’s not about feeling punished, it’s a fact. Newly enrolled customer offered the signature bundle v2 upgrade for 217 euros or buy the new bundle with all of the duplicates for 300 Euros. How is that taking care or creating loyal customers? The ones that buy right now will eventually have the same problem as most of us are having right now.
X =Sarcasm derives from an emotional state thus response seeks destruction an Y =Immoral act.
XeY = ∏ Self destruction.
Efficacious decree determines the event. (cf. Turretin 3.12.21.25) Theology.

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