30 year licenses ???

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I can't even guarantee my own life for 30 more years much less be concerned about a 30 year plugin license so whatever. If I can't come up with enough money to buy it again in 30 years if necessary I've got problems way beyond these plugins. It's a non thing to me. lol.

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Hope I will still be alive in 30 years time.

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I wouldn't be surprised if in the future they start releasing plugins at different prices for different license periods.

Would you like to buy our new synthesizer? $200 for a 5 year license. If after 5 years you still use it, buy it again for 200 bucks. Or we have a unique advantageous offer for you: a 10-year discounted license for only $300.

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Yes, and the aim will no doubt be to reduce the license period down to every 1 month. Of course it won't be marketed as subscription, it'll be "frequent ownership". If they can get it down to every day...

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if they can guarentee ill be alive then too, im in!
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vurt wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:49 pm if they can guarentee ill be alive then too, im in!
:hihi:

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dblock wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:10 pm I can't even guarantee my own life for 30 more years much less be concerned about a 30 year plugin license so whatever. If I can't come up with enough money to buy it again in 30 years if necessary I've got problems way beyond these plugins. It's a non thing to me. lol.
It’s just weird. It’d be one thing if they were pledging to keep the licensing system or online component running for x years after which the plugin will stop working. This is more like “if you own this plugin for a third of a century we’re going to come to your house and forcibly remove your it from your 20 year old legacy PC, and probably kick you in the shins while we’re there.”
The life you have, the life you need, is not the same as the one in your dreams

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I suspect the real reason for some form of time limit to the license is to get around the horrible 2012 CJEU ruling in UsedSoft v. Oracle, so they don't have to permit license resale.

Same reason the move towards subscription models began a decade ago.
Bad law has bad consequences.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

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Alexander137 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:21 pm I wouldn't be surprised if in the future they start releasing plugins at different prices for different license periods.

Would you like to buy our new synthesizer? $200 for a 5 year license. If after 5 years you still use it, buy it again for 200 bucks. Or we have a unique advantageous offer for you: a 10-year discounted license for only $300.
This is starting to enter the realm of subscription again……. We ALL love subscriptions……. :(
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.:mad:
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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kritikon wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:41 pm Yes, and the aim will no doubt be to reduce the license period down to every 1 month. Of course it won't be marketed as subscription, it'll be "frequent ownership". If they can get it down to every day...
Exactly…… The more thibgs change, the more they stay the same… when will they stop? :(
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.:mad:
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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jamcat wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:28 am I suspect the real reason for some form of time limit to the license is to get around the horrible 2012 CJEU ruling in UsedSoft v. Oracle, so they don't have to permit license resale.

Same reason the move towards subscription models began a decade ago.
Bad law has bad consequences.
this sounds like it could make sense.

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Kypresso wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:59 pm
audiojunkie wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:11 pm What developer did that EULA come from?
Well in the text it twice mentions ik multimedia servers, so i guess its my favorite idiot company doing idiot things again.
Watch what you are saying, they have eyes everywhere hahahaha.
Duh

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jamcat wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:28 am I suspect the real reason for some form of time limit to the license is to get around the horrible 2012 CJEU ruling in UsedSoft v. Oracle, so they don't have to permit license resale.

Same reason the move towards subscription models began a decade ago.
Bad law has bad consequences.
That case had zero impact on subscription, subscription was always coming, like it or not, developers ALL believe that subscription by whatever name you call it is the only way for them to achieve the capitalist dream of growth.
Duh

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Any changes to non perpetual licenses or forced subscription changes would immediately influence a cull of every item of software in my inventory that is not used with great regularity. To just the most important/effective to reduce the impact, especially on any forced subs/licence shortening practices.

Everyone would likely do the same and audio plug in sales would be decimated forever.

It would be an extremely foolish and self defeating move for the software industry.

Personally I will now never buy an IK product again, I don't use them anyway despite ownership of a few, all superceded. Thanks for the heads up.

Choose what you use with care. as far as you can know what might happen and what companies you feel you can rely on.Which can now be a moving target of course.

Glad you brought this up so consumers can keep an eye on this detrimental move.

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I hope those that recently bought the Humble Bundle deal will have access to their downloads before 30 years has passed.
Fingers crossed.

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