So, how does one go about working with Ambisonic format with Melda? I have been looking for a good guide/tutorial, but no dice.
Do you have to insert Melda plugins after a separate, dedicated Ambisonic encoder (like the IEM suite encoder plugin and whatnot) or can Melda handle that by itself?
In my scenario it is to process Ambisonic signal with Melda (say, MAutopanMB) and then convert/decode into binaural headphones format.
Ambisonic format - howto?
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- KVRist
- 232 posts since 9 Feb, 2007
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 22 Nov, 2024
Hi Daniel,
Melda is great for mixing ambisonics signals. But there is no coding/decoding from/to Ambix/other formats.
Limiting, EQing, Reverb and other creative processors works perfectly!
If they do this, will probably be as perfect as other processors.
Melda is great for mixing ambisonics signals. But there is no coding/decoding from/to Ambix/other formats.
Limiting, EQing, Reverb and other creative processors works perfectly!
If they do this, will probably be as perfect as other processors.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 232 posts since 9 Feb, 2007
Welcome aboard, fellow KVRian!
So, since you say Melda doesn't have the encoding/decoding functionality for Ambisonics as of yet - how does it "see" such a signal?
If I select, say 7th order, Ambisonics processing in a Melda plugin, is that signal expected to be provided to its input as a bunch of 64x (decoded from Ambisonics) ordinary mono tracks and the user needs to take care of their proper layout themselves or?
Vojtech, could you please chime in on this?
Like I said in my first post of the thread, I would like to be able to do a full, spherical panning with MAutopanMB via Ambisonics signal (that finally gets converted into binaural format for headphones). Is this achievable with Melda, as of now?
So, since you say Melda doesn't have the encoding/decoding functionality for Ambisonics as of yet - how does it "see" such a signal?
If I select, say 7th order, Ambisonics processing in a Melda plugin, is that signal expected to be provided to its input as a bunch of 64x (decoded from Ambisonics) ordinary mono tracks and the user needs to take care of their proper layout themselves or?
Vojtech, could you please chime in on this?
Like I said in my first post of the thread, I would like to be able to do a full, spherical panning with MAutopanMB via Ambisonics signal (that finally gets converted into binaural format for headphones). Is this achievable with Melda, as of now?
"How are we supposed to judge what each converter sounds like without know which is which? I don't want to be unfairly influenced by blind listening."
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- KVRian
- 1094 posts since 23 Sep, 2006
I can chime in on this as I made the original request for ambi support.
Yes, there is no encoding/decoding support, so melda expects encoded signals. Given there are freely available solutions for this it isn't a big problem but it would have been nice to have integrated it.
So yeah, encode to ambi using something like the iem plugs, then use melda plugins in ambi mode. As you say, melda will be processing tons of channels.
It's a somewhat blunt solution as some effects mess with stereo phase and you're obviously going to need channels to not influence each other. The assumption is that anyone using ambi is likely technical enough that they'd be aware of this. So something to be aware of.
In short, ambi mode is no different to surround mode, it just allows for a lot more channels and the internals needed to be reconfigured to support so many channels, hence the need for a separate mode.
Unfortunately I suspect your panning idea is a no go as that would need an integrated encoder.
Hope that helps.
Yes, there is no encoding/decoding support, so melda expects encoded signals. Given there are freely available solutions for this it isn't a big problem but it would have been nice to have integrated it.
So yeah, encode to ambi using something like the iem plugs, then use melda plugins in ambi mode. As you say, melda will be processing tons of channels.
It's a somewhat blunt solution as some effects mess with stereo phase and you're obviously going to need channels to not influence each other. The assumption is that anyone using ambi is likely technical enough that they'd be aware of this. So something to be aware of.
In short, ambi mode is no different to surround mode, it just allows for a lot more channels and the internals needed to be reconfigured to support so many channels, hence the need for a separate mode.
Unfortunately I suspect your panning idea is a no go as that would need an integrated encoder.
Hope that helps.