KVR Audio

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:14 pm

It's almost as if they're secretly running a business.

TmS1 · Post by **TmS1** » Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:24 pm

Oh, they are.. that doesn’t take from the fact that there are other business that have a healthier business with the end user, fabfilter, soundtoys, cytomics, SSL, arturia and many more. It doesn’t have to take from the end user experience.

TmS1 · Post by **TmS1** » Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:26 pm

It will be useful to use some common sense, you should try it

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:12 am

TmS1 wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:24 pm Oh, they are.. that doesn’t take from the fact that there are other business that have a healthier business with the end user, fabfilter, soundtoys, cytomics, SSL, arturia and many more. It doesn’t have to take from the end user experience.

AFAIK they're hiring.
You should sent them your application as CEO.

TmS1 · Post by **TmS1** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:42 pm

Their business strategies do not align with me personally.

TMaudio · Post by **TMaudio** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:24 pm

TmS1 wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:13 pm Thats cool, doesn’t take from the fact that they have underlying intentions behind every action and that only seems to be selling regardless of the end user experience.

Sooo, you are telling us, a business wants to make money?????

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:01 pm

TMaudio wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:24 pm
TmS1 wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:13 pm Thats cool, doesn’t take from the fact that they have underlying intentions behind every action and that only seems to be selling regardless of the end user experience.
Sooo, you are telling us, a business wants to make money?????

Scandal!

TmS1 · Post by **TmS1** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:07 pm

TMaudio wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:24 pm
TmS1 wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:13 pm Thats cool, doesn’t take from the fact that they have underlying intentions behind every action and that only seems to be selling regardless of the end user experience.
Sooo, you are telling us, a business wants to make money?????

I am telling you what’s their business strategy to make money on customers, which is based on customers accommodating to their business instead of being the other way around. Every serious software developer that sell a license permits the customer to get sell their unused licenses no matter the cause. UAD on the other way they rather sell you multiple license of the same software again customer adapting to their business model and you won’t be able to sell these licenses, that could only be done if you buy their hardware and sell such licenses along with it. which i suppose you know, you are just not friends with common sense. its as clear as water what their business is built upon in any example made at this point

TmS1 · Post by **TmS1** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:22 pm

The sarcasms only tell me two things, I would not take advice regarding this matter from you & I know that you accept this kind of behavior and would be prone to implement it in to your on business which I will not be a part of.

TmS1 · Post by **TmS1** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:15 pm

Let’s have a moment of silence for the ones that hung the jingles in the Xmas trees.

do some research, sarcasm won’t help.

Scandal!

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:19 pm

TmS1 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:07 pm Every serious software developer that sell a license permits the customer to get sell their unused licenses no matter the cause.

It's fair criticism. The discussion will be more productive if you say this outright, rather than making nebulous statements about how they "clearly don’t care about existing consumers" that are easy to refute.

UAD on the other way they rather sell you multiple license of the same software again customer adapting to their business model and you won’t be able to sell these licenses, that could only be done if you buy their hardware and sell such licenses along with it.

You bought your Signature Bundle used. Have you ever bought anything directly from Universal Audio?

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TmS1 · Post by **TmS1** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:35 pm

Uncle E wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:19 pm
TmS1 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:07 pm Every serious software developer that sell a license permits the customer to get sell their unused licenses no matter the cause.
It's fair criticism. The discussion will be more productive if you say this outright, rather than making nebulous statements about how they "clearly don’t care about existing consumers" that are easy to refute.

UAD on the other way they rather sell you multiple license of the same software again customer adapting to their business model and you won’t be able to sell these licenses, that could only be done if you buy their hardware and sell such licenses along with it.
You bought your Signature Bundle used. Have you ever bought anything directly from Universal Audio?

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Matter fact I bought a bundle from them at first only to find out that they had this problem when I was about to upgrade my bundle, so I had the right to cancel my order and bought the software “used”.
Yes, I have purchased couple of software from UAD since, should have seen this coming. I guess I was ignorant to their business model. I am not anymore and there fore my argumentation. Enlighten me, how does that help your argumentation? What is the point you wanna get across? My point has been clear all along. Some are clearly more interested in arguing with me, rather than looking at the facts provided.

TmS1 · Post by **TmS1** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:41 pm

They do not care about existing customers because it is not imbedded within their business model, their business model is as clear as water. Now let’s say that UAD would portray them selfs as their business model from the beginning I would not purchase anything from them, I would respect that. Instead they do not, they paint half a picture of something only for the customer to find out than you can’t do anything about it.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:42 pm

I have 4 duplicate licenses of some UADx plugins. It doesn’t really bother me, because I am in control of what I buy, and each time, it was a good offer that I chose to take. If I get a bunch of plugins I want for super cheap in a bundle that also includes plugins I already own, what do I have to complain about, really?

TmS1 · Post by **TmS1** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:49 pm

jamcat wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:42 pm I have 4 duplicate licenses of some UADx plugins. It doesn’t really bother me, because I am in control of what I buy, and each time, it was a good offer that I chose to take. If I get a bunch of plugins I want for super cheap in a bundle that also includes plugins I already own, what do I have to complain about, really?

There you go, so you are meant to tell me that other people shouldn’t care because you clearly do not? Knowing that you would acknowledge their business strategy, which does not bother you.. I had already figured out this argument before hand

which again.. not that weird. It’s just amazing, you are one of those. Scandal

UAD still worth it?