Over-hyped vs Underrated

[DNAudio]

This thread kind of a massive crock of nothing. Instead of shouting "I think people like this plugin too much" to appease those who agree with you, draw distain from those who don't, for no benefit to either, you should state specifics as to why or explain why certain plugins could harm your audio in subtle ways.

[billinder33]

Just hyping some things I like and IMO deserve consideration for purchase. Underrated:

Impress 3 - dessert island track compressor
Fuse Compressor - OTT on steroids
DynOne - OTT for mastering
Spectre - dessert island track saturator
True Iron - dessert island buss saturator
Trackspacer - fast and great sounding ducker
Filterverse - most versitile filter
Shaperbox - does a great job on way more things than most people think
Snapback - takes drum sounds to the next level
bx-Aura - just sounds great
Tonal Balance Control - best way to keep your mix's frequency spectrum in check
Current - Serum on steroids
Current FX - hard to beat this bundle
TDR Arbiter - most natural de-esserish plugin

Great, but already well rated: Pro-Q, Pro-L, Metric A/B, Michaelangelo, Unisum, Rift, Serum, Phaseplant, Myth, Diva


Nothing wrong with any of plugins or looking down at other users, but IMO better alternatives exist. Overrated:

Skeumorphic EQs and compressors - why bother?
Most Acustica offerings - to many quirks, bugs, bloat, resource hogging
Valhalla - mid
XLN RC-20 - mid
Tone projects Kelvin - complicated and mid
Bx-HG-2 and HG-2MS - one of the few popular plugins I just strait up dislike. Awful sounding saturation algos
Plugin Alliance - the Amazon for mid plugins

[AGIGA]

This thread kind of a massive crock of nothing. Instead of shouting "I think people like this plugin too much" to appease those who agree with you, draw distain from those who don't, for no benefit to either, you should state specifics as to why or explain why certain plugins could harm your audio in subtle ways.

This! But it shows the current state of KVR audio pretty well.

[concealed identity]

This thread kind of a massive crock of nothing. Instead of shouting "I think people like this plugin too much" to appease those who agree with you, draw distain from those who don't, for no benefit to either, you should state specifics as to why or explain why certain plugins could harm your audio in subtle ways.

This! But it shows the current state of KVR audio pretty well.

Not true, nobody's started fighting yet

[DCrown]

Well, Pianoteq still sounds too plastic to me and that's not just my opinion

Can you prove this?

Most pianos are made of wood, aren't they?
I can't hear any wood, do you?
No kidding, you know very well that Pianoteq could still be improved soundwise and they get better with every upgrade so there's still hope.
To me NI Alicia Keys Yamaha piano (just one example) sounds like a piano, whereas Pianoteq still tries to sound like a piano and it's very close, too, but some lack of richness, warmth and realism.

[DCrown]

This thread kind of a massive crock of nothing. Instead of shouting "I think people like this plugin too much" to appease those who agree with you, draw distain from those who don't, for no benefit to either, you should state specifics as to why or explain why certain plugins could harm your audio in subtle ways.

I think some plugins are hyped more than they deserve, I don't care whether someone agrees or not at all. It's a topic that obviously inspires people to join.
My fav synth is Avenger and my fav dev Waves (and Waves gets a lot of hate, because they are good, what makes no sense) and I would completely understand if someone dislikes Avenger, maybe because of too many features or too much focused on dance music or obviously the synth that gets the most feedback on kvr threads or...
Ask me how much I would care if you don't like Avenger!
You should learn to accept different opinions; maybe age limit (40+) would lead to more relaxed views on topics, but maybe would get too boring...?!
I have to face-palm when reading some replies, a forum is a place for discussion with different views and if it's hard for someone to see that there are people who don't like your plugin or brand, you better do not join such a thread, you better start a new thread glorifying a product.

[DCrown]

This thread kind of a massive crock of nothing. Instead of shouting "I think people like this plugin too much" to appease those who agree with you, draw distain from those who don't, for no benefit to either, you should state specifics as to why or explain why certain plugins could harm your audio in subtle ways.

This! But it shows the current state of KVR audio pretty well.

The current state (well, it was always like that) is:
"Valhalla plugins are great. They are the best" and " don't dare not to applaud".!

"Different strokes for different folks
and so on and so on and scooby-dooby-dooby.."

[vitocorleone123]

This thread kind of a massive crock of nothing. Instead of shouting "I think people like this plugin too much" to appease those who agree with you, draw distain from those who don't, for no benefit to either, you should state specifics as to why or explain why certain plugins could harm your audio in subtle ways.

This! But it shows the current state of KVR audio pretty well.

The current state (well, it was always like that) is:
"Valhalla plugins are great. They are the best" and " don't dare not to applaud".!

"Different strokes for different folks
and so on and so on and scooby-dooby-dooby.."

Valhalla Delay is absolutely one of the best delays on the market, and if you add in the price aspect and the two new modes added for free, it’s an incredible tool and value. It’s my go to delay unless I know I’m going for something weird it can’t do.

VVV - price leader for a long time for a good reverb, but the most recent couple of algos added are better than a lot of reverbs - maybe better than most. Considering the price is still $50 as it’s been forever and a bunch was added free… hard to go wrong with it as a color reverb.

Valhalla Supermassive - an incredible deal with great sound… could easily be a $99 plugin. Better than Blackhole.

V Rooms? Meh. Too metallic overall for me.

V Shimmer? Good if you like that kind of thing.

[DCrown]

This thread kind of a massive crock of nothing. Instead of shouting "I think people like this plugin too much" to appease those who agree with you, draw distain from those who don't, for no benefit to either, you should state specifics as to why or explain why certain plugins could harm your audio in subtle ways.

This! But it shows the current state of KVR audio pretty well.

The current state (well, it was always like that) is:
"Valhalla plugins are great. They are the best" and " don't dare not to applaud".!

"Different strokes for different folks
and so on and so on and scooby-dooby-dooby.."

Valhalla Delay is absolutely one of the best delays on the market, and if you add in the price aspect and the two new modes added for free, it’s an incredible tool and value. It’s my go to delay unless I know I’m going for something weird it can’t do.

VVV - price leader for a long time for a good reverb, but the most recent couple of algos added are better than a lot of reverbs - maybe better than most. Considering the price is still $50 as it’s been forever and a bunch was added free… hard to go wrong with it as a color reverb.

Valhalla Supermassive - an incredible deal with great sound… could easily be a $99 plugin. Better than Blackhole.

V Rooms? Meh

V shimmer? Good if you like that kind of thing

Valhalla Delays? I was refering to their reverbs, though.
I also like the delay, the reverbs not at all, cuz there are lots of better options imo
Valhalla reverbs are fighting with a sound or instrument, it should turn into one unit (sound+reverb), though, simply enhancing it

[El°HYM]

SuperMassive

[Papuzzo]

99.9% of today's music is overrated and if you need special, expensive plugins to make your bland cookie cutter songs stand out, it's not the plugins. Good musicians who don't need 100 plugins to sound good are underrated.

[martinjuenke]

AIR Mini Grand
It's better than Pianoteq imo

Sorry, that's complete BS.
You haven't understood to use Pianoteq properly.

[martinjuenke]

Crisp, clean, and streak-free!

[fmr]

Well, Pianoteq still sounds too plastic to me and that's not just my opinion, but I like the morphing feature to create "strange" sounding instruments.
I don't record classical or piano only music...

Tell me you don't know how a piano should sound, without telling you don't know how a piano should sound

I prefer sampled instruments over physical modeling.

And you just confessed you have a biased opinion to start with.

Well, Pianoteq still sounds too plastic to me and that's not just my opinion

Can you prove this?

Most pianos are made of wood, aren't they?
I can't hear any wood, do you?

OMG... Made of wood?

Did you EVER see a real piano? Do you know how the piano produces sound?

[Daimonicon]

Soothe
Wt. do one would need a problem solver?
Just don't produce any problems!

It’s obvious you have never recorded or know anything about recording and only depends on vst’s. Nothing wrong with and that’s what most do. Ever heard the qoute better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt? There are numerous pro producers using sooth. Do you really think they use because they make mistake and don’t know how to record?