Audition for $129

[headquest]

I was wondering about this myself. I don't think Tracktion has an option to use an external audio editor does it (??) so how do you work them together. Does Audition function as a rewire slave or something?

In tracktion:

1. highlight the clip to be edited
2. select "view source info" from properties section in lower screen area
3. select edit audio file
4. in next menu there is an option to designate an external wave editor.
5. once this is done, Audition will appear as a link
6. clicking on the link opens Audition in edit view with the wave loaded
7. edit the audio in AA. save and close
8. editted file is inserted back in Tracktion.

works a treat.
have fun

[aMUSEd]

I didn't realise it could do this - thanks. In terms of Tracktion compatibility does Audition work with Ogg files too - I think I qualify for the academic price (as a PHD student) so I'm interested in this - about time I got a decent wave editor - I don't get on with Wavelab lite (keeps crashing).

[headquest]

I didn't realise it could do this - thanks. In terms of Tracktion compatibility does Audition work with Ogg files too - I think I qualify for the academic price (as a PHD student) so I'm interested in this - about time I got a decent wave editor - I don't get on with Wavelab lite (keeps crashing).

I think Ogg files are one of the very few formats that AA does not support. Sorry. Can they be converted to .wav in Tracktion first though?

[aMUSEd]

I'm sure they could though it's a useful T feature that it works with OGG files. Pity - maybe someone will make a plugin that deos this for Audition.

[headquest]

I'm sure they could though it's a useful T feature that it works with OGG files. Pity - maybe someone will make a plugin that deos this for Audition.

If OGG files are really important to you, I think that Sound Forge handles them, and could be set up as a wave editor to work with Tracktion in exactly the same way as AA. However, Sound Forge lacks *many* of AA's amazing features, and is really *only* a wave editor at present. (I'm certain this will soon change, because I'm Sony hate the way Adobe has so seriously outdone them on this!)

AA uses MP3pro as its main "lossy" format.

[aMUSEd]

No I'd already ruled out Soundforge (I don't like having lots of DX plugins on my system). So what are these "amazing" features if you don't mind me asking? What makes it stand out from the rest?

[SuperFly76]

I was wondering about this myself. I don't think Tracktion has an option to use an external audio editor does it (??) so how do you work them together. Does Audition function as a rewire slave or something?

Tracktion does infact have this feature. You can set it to use any audio editor that you want.

[SuperFly76]

Whoops... I see that the question has already been answered.

[Rabban]

I think Ogg files are one of the very few formats that AA does not support. Sorry. Can they be converted to .wav in Tracktion first though?

I'm sure they could though it's a useful T feature that it works with OGG files. Pity - maybe someone will make a plugin that deos this for Audition.

I remember finding an ogg vorbis v1.1.0 file filter for Cool Edit Pro/Adobe Audition with read/write support (I don't use the file format but I came across the ogg vorbis support before):

http://www.vuplayer.com/other.htm

Cheers,

Rabban

[audiobot202]

T does indeed have the option to configure an external wave editor. If you right click on a clip in T you should see an option to edit the wave file or configure the path to an editor program. Likewise, I belive that if you select a track and click the bottom button 'view source file info' (or similar) it should give you access to this option of configuration or edit.

[audiobot202]

I was wondering about this myself. I don't think Tracktion has an option to use an external audio editor does it (??) so how do you work them together. Does Audition function as a rewire slave or something?

In tracktion:

1. highlight the clip to be edited
2. select "view source info" from properties section in lower screen area
3. select edit audio file
4. in next menu there is an option to designate an external wave editor.
5. once this is done, Audition will appear as a link
6. clicking on the link opens Audition in edit view with the wave loaded
7. edit the audio in AA. save and close
8. editted file is inserted back in Tracktion.

works a treat.
have fun

ok....he said it first this is what happens when I'm trying to type with one hand and hold my daughter with the other at the same time burping her !!

[headquest]

No I'd already ruled out Soundforge (I don't like having lots of DX plugins on my system). So what are these "amazing" features if you don't mind me asking? What makes it stand out from the rest?

The most significant differences relate to Audition's multitrack view. Whereas Soundforge is a stereo waveform editor, Audition can run 128 stereo audio/ReWire tracks simultaneously. As such it can be used as an audio-only sequencer and ReWire host for programs like FL, Live, Acid, Reason, etc. The 128 track mixing desk also includes a bussing architecture and the option to use - and freeze - real-time effects processes.

Also worth nopting that Soundforge only uses its native and DX effects. Audition has more - and mostly better - native effects and supports VST, which can be applied destrucitvely or as real-time in multitrack view.

Audition also includes CD burning - not sure about Soundforge. Both have video-thumbnails I believe.

Noise reduction, click/pop removal, etc are significantly better in Audition, which is widely considered the industry leader in this area.

Lastly, Audition now has frequency spectrum editing. This enables you to view a waveform not just on the basis of amplitude (using colours) but also frequency (on the vertical axis) over time (horizontal axis). New to version 1.5, you can use the marquee selection tool to square off a range of frequencies and edit them in isolation (e.g. to remove a cough from a live audience, or to apply compression just to lower frequencies and so enhance the bass sound). I don't know of a comparable feature in any piece of software (although Izotope's Spectron has similarities).

Hope this helps.

[birrbits]

I was wondering about this myself. I don't think Tracktion has an option to use an external audio editor does it (??) so how do you work them together. Does Audition function as a rewire slave or something?

In tracktion:

1. highlight the clip to be edited
2. select "view source info" from properties section in lower screen area
3. select edit audio file
4. in next menu there is an option to designate an external wave editor.
5. once this is done, Audition will appear as a link
6. clicking on the link opens Audition in edit view with the wave loaded
7. edit the audio in AA. save and close
8. editted file is inserted back in Tracktion.

works a treat.
have fun

Just to clarify, this isn't rewire peforming this, but just a windows call to open a specific wav editor. Audition can be a rewire host (but not a client). I use Audition with FL Studio. I do all my 'organic' guitar, bass & vocal work in Audition, then add a few tracks rewired to FL Studio (FL outputting to AA). Hope this helps.

[birrbits]

Just to clarify, this isn't rewire peforming this, but just a windows call to open a specific wav editor. Audition can be a rewire host (but not a client). I use Audition with FL Studio. I do all my 'organic' guitar, bass & vocal work in Audition, then add a few tracks rewired to FL Studio (FL outputting to AA). Hope this helps.

My first post & I'm quoting myself
Instead of Rewire host I meant to say 'master'

[headquest]

Just to clarify, this isn't rewire peforming this, but just a windows call to open a specific wav editor. Audition can be a rewire host (but not a client). I use Audition with FL Studio. I do all my 'organic' guitar, bass & vocal work in Audition, then add a few tracks rewired to FL Studio (FL outputting to AA). Hope this helps.

Yep, that was worth clarifying

For the sake of Tracktion/Audition users it's also worth pointing out that birrman's workflow can't be done using Tracktion instead of FL, because both Audition and Tracktion will function as ReWire master/host only... meaning that neither will function as the "slave/client" program.

This is generally true of all full-on sequencing programs. They present themselves as the main workplace, and so see no need to be "slaved" to another application. The exception is that most people will at some time want to use an external wave editor, and ReWire is not the obvious route for this.... so most sequencers allow you to designate an external audio editor such as Audition/Soundforge/etc.

Tracktion works brilliantly as the central plank in a set up using all the programs mentioned here. Tracktion will be your main "host". FL/Live/Reason/Acid/P5/Orion are the main programs that I know will act as a ReWire slave/client, and can hence be used within Tracktion. Audition/Soundforge/etc can be set up as external editors. It's the perfect all-round combination/solution.