Something to check out

[Lunch Money]

Before I start, let me make it clear-- I WANT an external editor, but I'm with PT that I'm not sure what it will bring to the table.

With Audition, the feature-list is so comprehensive that I 'get' what the extras are. The time-stretch, pitch-correction, loop points, etc., etc., are all features that Tracktion doesn't have.

I looked at Acoustica and was tempted by the noise removal feature (again, something T doesn't have unless you have a plug-in, and there are few or no freebies/cheapies that do a good job), but was hoping for at least ONE other useful feature before making the purchase.

I wouldn't personally want to open a wave editor just for chopping and moving around. Frankly, I find Tracktion to be absolutely ideal for this purpose. Zooming to sample level, chopping exactly where needed, moving newly-chopped bits around, and auto-crossfading them is simple and intuitive. Launching an external app to do this just doesn't make sense for my way of working.

So, other than noise reduction, does Acoustica bring anything else to the plate?

[edit: for example, checking out the NGwave, even something as simple as the built-in tuner is a selling feature for me, as none of the tuners (VST or standalone) that I've tried are ones that I'm satisfied with. Providing the ngwave one is as good as they say, that's worth $10 of the asking price right off the top.]

[IIRs]

Editing in an audio editor is very different to clip editing in T: personally I mainly use it to trim files for my sample library.. anything really creative gets done in T, which is partly why I'm reluctant to buy Soundforge or Audition.

If you ever record a condenser mic in the same room as a noisy pc however, I would say the noise reduction is worth the price on its own..

[Lunch Money]

I only recently got my first condenser mic... and was amazed at how pristine it came out. My PC is modded to be "silent" anyhow, and then the diaphragm is only medium (less sensitive, I gather, though I don't know for sure the true difference) and in a cardioid pattern which I kept pointed away from the PC.

Quite pristine actually!



Greg

[Mr. Tingle]

One thing I used ngwave recently was to reduce the volume of little 'pops' in a vocal take.

To do this with Tracktion I'd have to split a clip up into loads of parts and then have to extend each new clip to make an overlap, then crossfade each of these clips. lots of work.

ngwave (like audition & audacity) allows you to simply highlight the sections you want to change, make an alteration, then save. Tracktion then imediately updates the new wav (at least it does with ngwave) this is very cool.

[headquest]

Before I start, let me make it clear-- I WANT an external editor, but I'm with PT that I'm not sure what it will bring to the table.

With Audition, the feature-list is so comprehensive that I 'get' what the extras are. The time-stretch, pitch-correction, loop points, etc., etc., are all features that Tracktion doesn't have.

Aside from the obvious, as already stated by you and others, an "pro" editor also brings some great effects to the table. WHen I bought Audition I had been thinking of spending up to £200 on an effects bundle to use within Tracktion. I realised in buying Audition that I really had an outstanding set of effects that do everything I could want.

For example, as well as the usual compression, etc, Audition has no less than four seperate reverb effects in the box, as well as a "convolution". Of the reverbs two are "CPU lite" while the other two are convolution based and VERY realistic. And then the "Convolution" effect itself can load not only reverb impulses but also mic impulses, etc.

In edit view (which is where you go from Tracktion) you apply these effects - and any VST or DX plugs you have - destructively. So if you settle on a particular distortion sound for a guitar, you can apply it destructively in Audition and then free up CPU rather than keeping running all the plug-ins in Tracktion. This is even more useful with processor heavy plugs.

On a different note, if you use loops, Audition is a sample editor which can rival ReCycle or Acid in the way you can chop up and edit loops.

[rpc9943]

I used to think it was redundant to own audition and tracktion, but its so untrue, they both are used for their specific uses. I felt a little guilty for now using tracktion as a MT recorder over audition, because i was using cool edit pro since i was younger, but its time to move on... I really like the mixing interface in cool edit. What do you guys think of auditions mixing engine as opposed to tracktions


RonC

[Lunch Money]

Tingle-- I tried the demo of ngwave, and I couldn't find the tuner. Any ideas?

It's starting to look to me (unfortunately) that the less expensive wave editors don't add enough to my toolbox to warrant the purchase. Audition, however, is looking more and more interesting. We'll see what T2 is like.

Greg

[Mr. Tingle]

Tingle-- I tried the demo of ngwave, and I couldn't find the tuner. Any ideas? :DGreg

press record/ analogue VU options/ VU mode

[Lunch Money]

Ah, cause the documentation says it's under the 'view' menu, but doesn't specify the "view" in the record window. Wonder if I should e-mail them. Now if only I could get a signal into NG, I'd be getting somewhere. I seem to have selected the right device in the windows I've been able to find, and yet no signal is getting in. Sorry to hijack thread, I know this isn't the NG support forum.

Greg

[Mr. Tingle]

I found that I had to select either left or right from the input select before I could tune my guitar.

[Lunch Money]

Won't let me select for some reason-- it has the "both" radio box checked and won't let me alter that selection. Hrm. I can't get any sound into it at all (ie. to record a signal even). Suppose I should contact their support.

Greg

[Mr. Tingle]

Have you tried tools/ options/ audio sttings? Theres a few options there.

Might be an idea to close other apps when testing.

Also press record/ select recording device might give you another audio device to choose.

Also, might want to try tools/ windows system mixer just to make sure your using the right settings if using the internal sound cards.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[IIRs]

fwiw, wdm driver support for low latency and multiple effects chainer as well as audio preview are definitely on the cards for acoustica

You got some inside info there? What about loop tuning..?

[Lunch Money]

Have you tried tools/ options/ audio sttings? Theres a few options there.

Might be an idea to close other apps when testing.

Also press record/ select recording device might give you another audio device to choose.

Also, might want to try tools/ windows system mixer just to make sure your using the right settings if using the internal sound cards.

Yeah, I've tried it with other apps closed. There are 4 devices to choose from, related to my Audiophile PCI card, but none of them seemed to work.

Dicking around in the Delta config panel, there were a few different ways to rout the audio, but none of them seemed to help. *sigh*. I just want a tuner that works. <laff>

Greg