Cheap MPE controllers
- KVRian
- 783 posts since 16 Jun, 2022
What are some of the cheaper options for MPE controllers? Ideally the controller would have : pressure, X,Y position and a way to slide between notes. 
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- KVRAF
- 1592 posts since 19 Aug, 2009
Depending of your needs and/or budget, but maybe:
https://www.embodme.com/erae
https://roli.com/eu/experience/seaboard-m
I don't remember here, but there is a thread around with a list of all MPE controllers.
https://www.embodme.com/erae
https://roli.com/eu/experience/seaboard-m
I don't remember here, but there is a thread around with a list of all MPE controllers.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 783 posts since 16 Jun, 2022
thank youpc999 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:44 pm Depending of your needs and/or budget, but maybe:
https://www.embodme.com/erae
https://roli.com/eu/experience/seaboard-m
I don't remember here, but there is a thread around with a list of all MPE controllers.
I make electronic music - DAW of choice : Live 12 
- KVRian
- 1051 posts since 21 Apr, 2004
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 783 posts since 16 Jun, 2022
interesting thanks !
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- KVRAF
- 1592 posts since 19 Aug, 2009
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 783 posts since 16 Jun, 2022
exactly what i was looking for thankspc999 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:55 am Here is the list, look at his signature for synths.
viewtopic.php?t=594460
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- GRRRRRRR!
- 17690 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
If we're talking really cheap, you can pick up a used Roli Lightpad Block M on eBay for US$100 or so.
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- KVRian
- 1091 posts since 24 Oct, 2022
With MPE hardware, you get what you pay for.
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- 17690 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Unless you go for something like a Linnstrument, in which case you pay an enormous premium for something that's not actually all that great and has virtually no support outside the US. I honestly can't believe anyone can see even the slightest bit of value in those things. And they are big, heavy and ugly to boot. I don't understand why anyone would even mention them in a thread with the word "cheap" in the title. You can buy a half-decent car for less.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 783 posts since 16 Jun, 2022
for context if I had a bigger budget I would got for a Push 3, but it has way more features for a Live user than "just an MPE controller" so I don't think it's really fair to compare. A used Roli blocks looks like a good option do you why it was discontinued ?BONES wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:48 pm Unless you go for something like a Linnstrument, in which case you pay an enormous premium for something that's not actually all that great and has virtually no support outside the US. I honestly can't believe anyone can see even the slightest bit of value in those things. And they are big, heavy and ugly to boot. I don't understand why anyone would even mention them in a thread with the word "cheap" in the title. You can buy a half-decent car for less.
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- KVRAF
- 7967 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Once again Bones talks out his ass about something he's likely never even seen IRL. Roger f*cking Linn himself has answered every support email I've sent and I have no doubt it wouldn't be any different for AU.BONES wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:48 pm Unless you go for something like a Linnstrument, in which case you pay an enormous premium for something that's not actually all that great and has virtually no support outside the US. I honestly can't believe anyone can see even the slightest bit of value in those things. And they are big, heavy and ugly to boot. I don't understand why anyone would even mention them in a thread with the word "cheap" in the title. You can buy a half-decent car for less.
I'm selling the Seaboard Block, and the Push 3. I'm keeping the Linnstrument. My only complaint about the Linnstrument is the 128 would have suited me just fine.
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- KVRAF
- 7967 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
This fits most of your requirements.HOTF wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:51 pm What are some of the cheaper options for MPE controllers? Ideally the controller would have : pressure, X,Y position and a way to slide between notes.![]()
https://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/k-board/
Personally I don't like the feel of the Seaboard Blocks, but there is a top bar for sliding between notes. The Linnstrument is easily the best instrument besides iPad apps for sliding between notes but they're 1K to start with.
iPad and Surface apps might be the cheapest if you have access to one.
This iPad app is fantastic in general, X Y pads, MPE keyboard etc. etc.
https://numericalaudio.com/kb1/index.html
- KVRAF
- 8071 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
None of the cheaper controllers I've used were any good at all until I tried a Seaboard Block (the predecessor to the M, not the LED squares which are crap IMHO). It felt good to play slow chords with it, with very precise control over pressure and pitch... when it didn't cut out intermittently and frustrate the shit out of me. It was pretty awful for fast playing and velocity-based patches IMHO.
So, if you plan to play slow, and accurate pressure and pitch matter to you, AND if you get a unit that doesn't flake out, it might be worth it.
I love my Linnstrument 128 though... I got a used one, and it cost about 3x what the Seaboard did but it's also at least 3x better.
For slow chords and subtle pitch slides, while I enjoyed the squishiness of the Seaboard, the Linnstrument is equally accurate and playable. But it's also very well suited for faster parts and finger drumming. It does the grid thing, which greatly expands the available octave range while staying compact, and it's more configurable than Launchpad Pro or Polyend Medusa, with all the configuration right there on the unit. It's almost perfect IMHO.
So, if you plan to play slow, and accurate pressure and pitch matter to you, AND if you get a unit that doesn't flake out, it might be worth it.
I love my Linnstrument 128 though... I got a used one, and it cost about 3x what the Seaboard did but it's also at least 3x better.
For slow chords and subtle pitch slides, while I enjoyed the squishiness of the Seaboard, the Linnstrument is equally accurate and playable. But it's also very well suited for faster parts and finger drumming. It does the grid thing, which greatly expands the available octave range while staying compact, and it's more configurable than Launchpad Pro or Polyend Medusa, with all the configuration right there on the unit. It's almost perfect IMHO.
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- KVRian
- 1091 posts since 24 Oct, 2022
ROLI went through administration a few years back and simplified their product line, including product names.HOTF wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:30 am A used Roli blocks looks like a good option do you why it was discontinued ?