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musicproducerdee · Post by **musicproducerdee** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:27 pm

I use Ableton Live for writing, arranging, producing music and I love it. While it is absolutely possible to mix on Live, I find it getting in my way a lot (through fault of my own).

Once I have written a decent loop, I tend to listen to it over and over again and I start mixing it instantly to make it sound like a record, before I have even finished the arrangement or the rest of the song.

Let's also say that the Ableton Live mixer could use some enhancements (they have been improving with every version). While it is totally possible to mix and master in Live, I was wondering if anyone uses UAD Luna as their primary DAW for the task? If yes, what's your take on it?

It's on sale for $99 at the moment and let's just say I'm tempted.

musicproducerdee · Post by **musicproducerdee** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:35 pm

PS: Studio One 7 Pro crossgrade is $91 on bestservice at the moment.

hmm?

roman.i · Post by **roman.i** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:35 pm

No one does this.

musicproducerdee · Post by **musicproducerdee** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:26 pm

roman.i wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:35 pm No one does this.

A lot of people export stems to mix in another DAW.

legendCNCD · Post by **legendCNCD** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:18 pm

roman.i wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:35 pm No one does this.

I used to mix stuff from anywhere else in Cubase. I now mix everything inside Ableton - especially with 12.x bringing the mixer view to arrangement for quick adjustments of gains.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:04 pm

No Luna friends here?
99 bucks for Luna Pro.
GAS!
Talk me out of it!

Y rec · Post by **Y rec** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:06 pm

Masking artifacts is an important part of both mix, mastering and concept.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:16 pm

martinjuenke wrote: GAS!
Talk me out of it!

YAGNI

lotus2035 · Post by **lotus2035** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:25 pm

martinjuenke wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:04 pm No Luna friends here?
99 bucks for Luna Pro.
GAS!
Talk me out of it!

LUNA is a huge CPU hog and your computer will burst into flames.
There, I've planted a seed of doubt on behalf of your wallet.

musicproducerdee · Post by **musicproducerdee** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:45 pm

martinjuenke wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:04 pm No Luna friends here?
99 bucks for Luna Pro.
GAS!
Talk me out of it!

I ended up getting it for $88 on JRR Shop. I can use the plugins in a different DAW as well if I want to & I didn't have them already, so no overlap, worth it for me.

I like the interface as well

Edit: If they add a proper piano roll and ARA support, I might actually consider it as a primary DAW.

Funky40 · Post by **Funky40** » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:55 am

How good is the workflow for somebody who wants to work with audio with no timeline.
workflow vs. zoom-in, zoom-out, etc. ?(permanently zooming araound / mac with TP)

i can´t gel with any DAW.
And ableton which i can operate steals my midi HW controls ( even if i deactivate them, it happens sometiems fresh again, and the GP intern "inter routing plugin" does not show up for me in live, so i´m kinda donne with live)

so, still looking for a DAW for ausio recording my jamms, then cut in pieces, paste, paste, arrange, etc.

yeah, still shows up for $88 at jrr with one of the codes. tempting ! ( but i´m short on funds)

some feedback much appreciated

musicproducerdee · Post by **musicproducerdee** » Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:13 pm

Funky40 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:55 am How good is the workflow for somebody who wants to work with audio with no timeline.
workflow vs. zoom-in, zoom-out, etc. ?(permanently zooming araound / mac with TP)

i can´t gel with any DAW.
And ableton which i can operate steals my midi HW controls ( even if i deactivate them, it happens sometiems fresh again, and the GP intern "inter routing plugin" does not show up for me in live, so i´m kinda donne with live)

so, still looking for a DAW for ausio recording my jamms, then cut in pieces, paste, paste, arrange, etc.

yeah, still shows up for $88 at jrr with one of the codes. tempting ! ( but i´m short on funds)

some feedback much appreciated

I'd recommend downloading Luna and trying it out for yourself. The DAW itself is free, it's the extensions and plugins that are paid.

Funky40 · Post by **Funky40** » Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:28 am

musicproducerdee wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:13 pm I'd recommend downloading Luna and trying it out for yourself. The DAW itself is free, it's the extensions and plugins that are paid.

ahh, i see. Now i completely understand. Thanks !
but: if i could avoid to load the demo......

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:42 am

Luna is an excellent DAW for OP's purpose. Mixing is fast and easy because it sounds great before you even do anything. For use as a main DAW, it lacks a lot of MIDI capabilities, which is why I run Maschine as a plugin inside of it.

_leras · Post by **_leras** » Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:26 am

Uncle E wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:42 am Mixing is fast and easy because it sounds great before you even do anything.

Cmon... You need to expand on that...!

Is it because of the summing engines available? Because UAD plug ins?

I always thought it was a bit of an odd choice of where to spend development money, and kinda assumed they were going for the live musician/gig market
Not the main DAW market.

UAD Luna solely for mixing & mastering?