wow only +/- 12 semitones ? zynaptiq, whats wrong with you....Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:58 am Mode 6 is indeed cool but that sound can easily be achieved with a good vocoder, in fact Zynaptiq Orange Vocoder can replicate that sound easily. And only +/- 12 semitones for pitch shifting is indeed totally lame. I would have bought it for 50 bucks.
Zynaptic PITCHSHIFT PRO
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- KVRAF
- 9011 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 865 posts since 7 Jun, 2021
vs. what i am doing ?......i can only speak for my context. There ? ...No ! absolutely not.Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:58 am Mode 6 is indeed cool but that sound can easily be achieved with a good vocoder, in fact Zynaptiq Orange Vocoder can replicate that sound easily.
i have the vocoder, i patched with it.
Allways the same usecases vs. me:
realtime-play/ one-instrument performance patches.
mostly Piano based.
Means, in my case, i do deal with only one sound source.
And yes, i do use the Zynaptic vocoder in exatly such type of patches. Piano play.....turn it into experimental electronic music.....or: just play piano or:.....move along inbetween the two poles !
to create something useful with the vocoder "in that context" is hard work ! requires skills. And requires huge amounts of testing and what not. In short: it requires in my world a HUGE amount of time to get out something useful, .....leave out something good. And that is then not even nearly as good jammable, performanceable as is with mode 6.
My vocoder patchings do work more like a on top of the cake shugar coating.
It´s nearly not jammable. Not in a way that the vocoder sound as such could be the fundament of the jam itself. It adds more like just another layer of "sound-adjustbaility" to it.
There, in that sense, could be that there is some amount of tonal overlap. Some tonal similarity with mode 6.
Vs. what i am doing, is it not about to get a specific sound out of it. It is about the overall form-ability, the jammability of "that sound". The wider the spectrum is to where you can take it, the more control you have over all this, the better you could recreate the specific "to be had sounds", specific settings, the better the patch.
Thats my art. To create these patches.
The vocoder and mode 6 are vs. this type of usecase scenario not anything comparable in my opinion. I can definitly say this after just one night of test and jammalongs with mode 6.
No, mode 6 is special in my opinion. I really dig it !
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- KVRAF
- 16385 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Lol, I didn't want to push you into buyer's remorse, I was just mentioning an alternative to Mode 6. Relax and enjoy your new plugin
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- KVRian
- 957 posts since 30 Oct, 2003 from Pacific NW, USA
I use multiple Zynaptiq plug-ins all of the time because I love the way that they sound. They’re great for my sound design work. So I was pretty stoked to see a new, high-quality pitch-shifter. I accepted the Early Access offer. Now I need some time using it to be able to comment on the overall quality.
But I am disappointed that it’s only capable of +/- 12 semitones. That seems like a missed opportunity now that we have access to such powerful computers. Their algorithms have been awesome in the past, so my fingers are crossed and hopefully they’ve created more than just a pitch and formant shifter.
But I am disappointed that it’s only capable of +/- 12 semitones. That seems like a missed opportunity now that we have access to such powerful computers. Their algorithms have been awesome in the past, so my fingers are crossed and hopefully they’ve created more than just a pitch and formant shifter.
- KVRAF
- 7438 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
It's on sale currently.
Opinions so far?
Opinions so far?
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRAF
- 6642 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
It sucks ass on vocals. There are better alternatives, and probably anything you can think of does vocal shifting better.
Creative stuff is ok, but nothing to phone home about.
I wanted to like it very much but i simply don't, it doesn't sound good, there are better shifters out there in my opinion
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- KVRist
- 193 posts since 20 Mar, 2024
it's a brilliant piece of kit - same quality as everything else they make.
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- KVRist
- 193 posts since 20 Mar, 2024
sadly it is impossible to put two in seriesCaine123 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:53 amwow only +/- 12 semitones ? zynaptiq, whats wrong with you....Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:58 am Mode 6 is indeed cool but that sound can easily be achieved with a good vocoder, in fact Zynaptiq Orange Vocoder can replicate that sound easily. And only +/- 12 semitones for pitch shifting is indeed totally lame. I would have bought it for 50 bucks.
- KVRAF
- 2556 posts since 23 Jan, 2022
render and use it again on the rendered samplesandandpaint wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:42 amsadly it is impossible to put two in seriesCaine123 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:53 amwow only +/- 12 semitones ? zynaptiq, whats wrong with you....Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:58 am Mode 6 is indeed cool but that sound can easily be achieved with a good vocoder, in fact Zynaptiq Orange Vocoder can replicate that sound easily. And only +/- 12 semitones for pitch shifting is indeed totally lame. I would have bought it for 50 bucks.
aliasing plugin owner
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- KVRist
- 193 posts since 20 Mar, 2024
Nice of you to help, I was joking about the people complaining about the +/-12 semitones when the solution is trivial - of course I should have done a smiley face or a /s or something to make it obviousmartiu wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:25 amrender and use it again on the rendered samplesandandpaint wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:42 amsadly it is impossible to put two in seriesCaine123 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:53 amwow only +/- 12 semitones ? zynaptiq, whats wrong with you....Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:58 am Mode 6 is indeed cool but that sound can easily be achieved with a good vocoder, in fact Zynaptiq Orange Vocoder can replicate that sound easily. And only +/- 12 semitones for pitch shifting is indeed totally lame. I would have bought it for 50 bucks.
- KVRAF
- 2556 posts since 23 Jan, 2022
oh, sorry, sometimes is hard to catch a joke with textsandandpaint wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:59 amNice of you to help, I was joking about the people complaining about the +/-12 semitones when the solution is trivial - of course I should have done a smiley face or a /s or something to make it obviousmartiu wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:25 amrender and use it again on the rendered samplesandandpaint wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:42 amsadly it is impossible to put two in seriesCaine123 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:53 amwow only +/- 12 semitones ? zynaptiq, whats wrong with you....Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:58 am Mode 6 is indeed cool but that sound can easily be achieved with a good vocoder, in fact Zynaptiq Orange Vocoder can replicate that sound easily. And only +/- 12 semitones for pitch shifting is indeed totally lame. I would have bought it for 50 bucks.
aliasing plugin owner
- KVRAF
- 7438 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
You're a clever fox!sandandpaint wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:42 amsadly it is impossible to put two in seriesCaine123 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:53 amwow only +/- 12 semitones ? zynaptiq, whats wrong with you....Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:58 am Mode 6 is indeed cool but that sound can easily be achieved with a good vocoder, in fact Zynaptiq Orange Vocoder can replicate that sound easily. And only +/- 12 semitones for pitch shifting is indeed totally lame. I would have bought it for 50 bucks.
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
- KVRAF
- 3875 posts since 12 Jan, 2019
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- KVRist
- 193 posts since 20 Mar, 2024
- KVRian
- 1010 posts since 8 Mar, 2004 from Network 23
I'll wait for PITCHSHIFT AMATEUR
We shall see orchestral machines with a thousand new sounds, with thousands of new euphonies, as opposed to the present day's simple sounds of strings, brass, and woodwinds. -- George Antheil, circa 1925 ---