Reason 13 Announced- Sequencer updated!

[Funky40]

a Reason licence is good for how many activations, just one ?

i searched their web-page. the licence agreement makes it look like this.
not found any clear infos elsewhere.

[kmonkey]

a Reason licence is good for how many activations, just one ?

i searched their web-page. the licence agreement makes it look like this.
not found any clear infos elsewhere.

There is no info about it but I have Reason 12 running in my studio and on my laptop on the go. Same license. No issue.

[kmonkey]

No idea but if you don't have reason and plan to use it as DAW, just don't.
They are years behind the competition.

I used Reason since v1 so I know very well how far they are behind because at the same time I use other DAWs. I just wanted to know about the MIDI.

If they finally added support for MIDI out on VSTs into the other devices I might upgrade for the fun of it. 79 is not that much. On the other side if they didn't add MIDI from VST plugins I'll skip and wait for another version and another offer. That simple.

[Jac459]

No idea but if you don't have reason and plan to use it as DAW, just don't.
They are years behind the competition.

I used Reason since v1 so I know very well how far they are behind because at the same time I use other DAWs. I just wanted to know about the MIDI.

If they finally added support for MIDI out on VSTs into the other devices I might upgrade for the fun of it. 79 is not that much. On the other side if they didn't add MIDI from VST plugins I'll skip and wait for another version and another offer. That simple.

Ah sorry, I was not sure you had the info.

For the midi I don't know but I can try later today.
I am not using the DAW since ages.

[Samiver]

No idea but if you don't have reason and plan to use it as DAW, just don't.
They are years behind the competition.

I used Reason since v1 so I know very well how far they are behind because at the same time I use other DAWs. I just wanted to know about the MIDI.

If they finally added support for MIDI out on VSTs into the other devices I might upgrade for the fun of it. 79 is not that much. On the other side if they didn't add MIDI from VST plugins I'll skip and wait for another version and another offer. That simple.

It does not have midi from vsts at the moment sadly. There are work arounds but think I saw you mention you were not interested in them (may have been another poster so apologies if it was not you).

[EnGee]

It seems a good upgrade with the current discount. I watched a video about it and the new update 13.1. It convinced me. Still downloading it though.

I have several RE's that really good, so I might consider Reason as my second DAW for now (Ableton Live would be the first one). Anyway, I always find myself making some music whenever I run Reason! So, it's definitely inspiring although I prefer Live's or Cubase's sequencer and workflow. But on the other hand, maybe the simplicity in recording and editing are the key for inspiring and is it that what's important?! So maybe I will start something and finish it with Reason and see how it goes.

[hotmitts]

I'm just not tempted by anything in the new version to update even at discount. That said Reason is perfectly usable and does what it does efficiently. I don't like this subscription stuff though.

[Jac459]

It seems a good upgrade with the current discount. I watched a video about it and the new update 13.1. It convinced me. Still downloading it though.

I have several RE's that really good, so I might consider Reason as my second DAW for now (Ableton Live would be the first one). Anyway, I always find myself making some music whenever I run Reason! So, it's definitely inspiring although I prefer Live's or Cubase's sequencer and workflow. But on the other hand, maybe the simplicity in recording and editing are the key for inspiring and is it that what's important?! So maybe I will start something and finish it with Reason and see how it goes.

Oh my.... You are doing the same mistake than me.
V13.1 is a frustration.

Go to Bitwig you will make music efficiently and with fun.

[EnGee]

It seems a good upgrade with the current discount. I watched a video about it and the new update 13.1. It convinced me. Still downloading it though.

I have several RE's that really good, so I might consider Reason as my second DAW for now (Ableton Live would be the first one). Anyway, I always find myself making some music whenever I run Reason! So, it's definitely inspiring although I prefer Live's or Cubase's sequencer and workflow. But on the other hand, maybe the simplicity in recording and editing are the key for inspiring and is it that what's important?! So maybe I will start something and finish it with Reason and see how it goes.

Oh my.... You are doing the same mistake than me.
V13.1 is a frustration.

Go to Bitwig you will make music efficiently and with fun.

Why you are saying this?!
I find the new upgrade/update really nice! The new synth "Polytone" seems fantastic! My VST3 favourites are functioning well and I find the new workflow slightly better than before. I hope they keep improving on that.
Sorry, no Bitwig for me. I much prefer Ableton Live 12.

[SLiC]

Go to Bitwig you will make music efficiently and with fun.

Hmmm, not so sure about that- Live is efficient and fun, Bitwig is a modular rabbit hole (I have both!). Reason is far easier to use than both of them and the 'players' and CV back patching is for me about as fun as it gets! Also being able to edit audio like midi (pitch correct audio singing/guitar) natively in Reason gives it a strong advantage over both Live and Bitwig for me- its a great 'get the job done' tool for singer/guitar songwriters. Bitwig is a lot of noodling, modulating fun, but by far my least productive DAW.

Given that I also have all the great instruments, FX and most importantly 'players' and tools in the rack for use in Bitwig and Live...Reason is a 'must have' option (although I admit the V13 upgrade wasnt until they took 60%+ off!)

[kmonkey]

It does not have midi from vsts at the moment sadly. There are work arounds but think I saw you mention you were not interested in them (may have been another poster so apologies if it was not you).

Ok, I'll skip this upgrade then. Since I use a lot of VCV Rack and their sequencer to send MIDI data out to VST instruments then I will miss this feature in Reason as a DAW.

Thanks.

Btw yes, it was me. I don't want Loopbe and things to work it out.

ATM I am not producing in Reason anymore. Once they add this feature I might upgrade if the price won't be absurd. Even though I dislike the current ship steering of the current ReasonStudios crew I can not deny the fun factor of the rack paradigm.

I miss some features in Reason but certainly, I can see that someone else might not need a feature XY this Reason for them is worth looking at. I also suggest to anyone to check EKSS, Synapse, and Blamsfot REs. Top stuff.

Thanks again.

One small off-topic question: did you hear anyone from their team ever speak about this, as if do they are at least looking at bringing MIDI data coming out from VSTs into their DAW?

[Jac459]

Go to Bitwig you will make music efficiently and with fun.

Hmmm, not so sure about that- Live is efficient and fun, Bitwig is a modular rabbit hole (I have both!). Reason is far easier to use than both of them and the 'players' and CV back patching is for me about as fun as it gets! Also being able to edit audio like midi (pitch correct audio singing/guitar) natively in Reason gives it a strong advantage over both Live and Bitwig for me- its a great 'get the job done' tool for singer/guitar songwriters. Bitwig is a lot of noodling, modulating fun, but by far my least productive DAW.

Given that I also have all the great instruments, FX and most importantly 'players' and tools in the rack for use in Bitwig and Live...Reason is a 'must have' option (although I admit the V13 upgrade wasnt until they took 60%+ off!)

Funny you think that. I guess it depends of your workflow and use cases. For me Bitwig is lightening fast and the modular aspect only help me to be faster (I keep my rare grid exploration only for chilling, not part of my workflow). But I am not trying to convince you, it is quite natural to have different tastes and if Bitwig didn't exist I would jump to Ableton without hesitation.

That being said I am surprised that you have this view of Reason getting the things done. To me it is so slow... All the things I do in 3 clicks in Bitwig are 15 in Reason (when possible to do).
Even with the new side chaining devices, it is such a chore...

On the other hand I still like to play with reason for exploration. It has some fun devices... Just less and less....

[Samiver]

It does not have midi from vsts at the moment sadly. There are work arounds but think I saw you mention you were not interested in them (may have been another poster so apologies if it was not you).

One small off-topic question: did you hear anyone from their team ever speak about this, as if do they are at least looking at bringing MIDI data coming out from VSTs into their DAW?

Yes Matthias said it was on their to do list however I would not get your hopes up as he said this back in January 2021!!!!!

[crimsonwarlock]

a Reason licence is good for how many activations, just one ?

If you use online authorization, you can install it on as many machines as you like. If you want to use long-term authorization (up to one year offline), you can authorize up to three machines for that. If you use all three offline authorizations, you can simply remove the authorization from one of them, to use it on another machine. It is actually a very flexible and rather permissive system now.

[kmonkey]

Yes Matthias said it was on their to do list however I would not get your hopes up as he said this back in January 2021!!!!!

Damn...ok I'll check their changelog once a year. If I don't forget.

Regards