Reason 13 Announced- Sequencer updated!

[crimsonwarlock]

I am surprised that you have this view of Reason getting the things done.

For me, Reason has a much faster workflow than any other DAW. But that comes largely from the fact that I grew up with hardware-based studios. This means that if I want to accomplish something with more complex routing (for example), the Reason way of doing things like that is obviously very logical to me, while other DAWs use some (to me) convoluted method with routing matrixes and stuff like that, which is totally counterintuitive from a hardware routing perspective.

The most simple example is side-chaining. While you can find questions about how to do it on almost any DAW user-forum, in Reason you simply connect a virtual cable from the channel you want to sidechain, to the sidechain inputs of the compressor where you want to use it. Very visual, and very simple to explain and thus to understand.

[crimsonwarlock]

If I don't forget.

Just put it on your calendar

[Funky40]

a Reason licence is good for how many activations, just one ?

If you use online authorization, you can install it on as many machines as you like. If you want to use long-term authorization (up to one year offline), you can authorize up to three machines for that. If you use all three offline authorizations, you can simply remove the authorization from one of them, to use it on another machine. It is actually a very flexible and rather permissive system now.

Thats good to hear !

Thank you and @kmonkey for the feedback.

[liquidsound]

Yes Matthias said it was on their to do list however I would not get your hopes up as he said this back in January 2021!!!!!

Damn...ok I'll check their changelog once a year. If I don't forget.

Regards

When I use Reason 12 and I need a MIDI out from something like xfer records Cthulhu, I load MuLab Plugin in the Rack and put Cthulhu in it together with any VST I wish to send the MIDI to.

A modular set up within the Reason Daw.

The only limitation is that I can’t send MIDI to another Reason Synth or RE, just to VSTs within MuLab Plugin.

Quite powerful setup actually.

Another one is to use Blue Cat’s Patchwork.

Note: MuLab Plugin can function as a complete DAW (with Session View like Ableton) inside Reason. I never used it that way though.

[hotmitts]

As far as the MIDI thing goes, I just discovered the free Kushview Elements host/vst which can chain MIDI to VST very easily within Reason. it's a piece of cake ( not sure you can drag MIDI out, probably have to export then import)
I know someone said no workarounds but this one's very easy

[liquidsound]

As far as the MIDI thing goes, I just discovered the free Kushview Elements host/vst which can chain MIDI to VST very easily within Reason. it's a piece of cake ( not sure you can drag MIDI out, probably have to export then import)
I know someone said no workarounds but this one's very easy

Did you try the free version inside Reason? It seems that only the paid version ($99 on sale for $25) works as a VST that can be then loaded inside Reason...

[Jac459]

I am surprised that you have this view of Reason getting the things done.

For me, Reason has a much faster workflow than any other DAW. But that comes largely from the fact that I grew up with hardware-based studios. This means that if I want to accomplish something with more complex routing (for example), the Reason way of doing things like that is obviously very logical to me, while other DAWs use some (to me) convoluted method with routing matrixes and stuff like that, which is totally counterintuitive from a hardware routing perspective.

The most simple example is side-chaining. While you can find questions about how to do it on almost any DAW user-forum, in Reason you simply connect a virtual cable from the channel you want to sidechain, to the sidechain inputs of the compressor where you want to use it. Very visual, and very simple to explain and thus to understand.

On other daws you just click sidechain button and choose the input.... I feel it pretty straightforward. But I do recognize that an hardware feel can be nice to get started.

But this is the limited way to do sidechaining. The fun way is to get an audio signal and transform it as a modulation (envelop followers or audio sidechain) that after you can feed everywhere ... You can use it to open a 303 filter or résonnance, change the FM ratio of a synth, you can have everything react to everything this way and create something really organic and alive....
This is somewhat possible with reason but it is much much more clumsy.
I remember succeeding to do it and feeling like a genius, playing with the CVs of reason (and the hidden envelop follower). When in fact it is so immediate and easy in DAWs like Bitwig.

(Finally they created a sidechain utility which is slightly better but not quite there)

[Jac459]

Anyway, I am sorry, I'm not generally this kind of person criticizing products other people like.
I guess I am still upset at buying the v13 upgrade and understanding after 15min that I will never use it.

I just can't accept that v11 brought grains and Europa among many other stuffs and v13.... The sad Polytone....

[crimsonwarlock]

On other daws you just click sidechain button and choose the input.... I feel it pretty straightforward.

I'm sure there are DAWs that make this easy. My experiences with Reaper though, are different. Depending on how the plugin receiving the sidechain is setup, you have to select crossings in the routing matrix. Not fun at all.

But this is the limited way to do sidechaining.

No, it is a very powerful way because you can connect all kinds of stuff in between that sidechain signal by simply connecting virtual cables. The big difference with a routing matrix is that you can only route signals from and to connections that are in the matrix (simply because it is pre-determined), while Reason's virtual cables can go anywhere you like.

The fun way is to get an audio signal and transform it as a modulation (envelop followers or audio sidechain) that after you can feed everywhere ... You can use it to open a 303 filter or résonnance, change the FM ratio of a synth, you can have everything react to everything this way and create something really organic and alive....

Which is all crazy simple to do in Reason.

This is somewhat possible with reason but it is much much more clumsy.

I get the impression that you are not that proficient with Reason, as everything you mention above is among the simple things you can do in Reason. You can do way more complex things, and just as easy.

(Finally they created a sidechain utility which is slightly better but not quite there)

Some people need a tool for that, others know just how to do it with the old hardware methods

One important caveat though: as my signature shows, I'm basically NOT using VST plugins, and much of the routing power in Reason comes from using Rack Extensions, that are in most cases specifically equipped for using Reason's virtual cable routing.

[hotmitts]

As far as the MIDI thing goes, I just discovered the free Kushview Elements host/vst which can chain MIDI to VST very easily within Reason. it's a piece of cake ( not sure you can drag MIDI out, probably have to export then import)
I know someone said no workarounds but this one's very easy

Did you try the free version inside Reason? It seems that only the paid version ($99 on sale for $25) works as a VST that can be then loaded inside Reason...

Well the free version I downloaded opens as a VST - now I'm trying to find info on the difference between the versions

[softska]

Folders and seperate clip looper should be on top of his list now.

At this point I would focus on a miracle...

If only people use block mode enough to convince them to improve it into a proper clip launch (stacking multiple blocks in the same bar/measure is more than half way there)
Lane automation override on top of blocks in song view is such a good idea I wish more pattern based DAW does it, sadly none of their video lately even promote its usage anymore.

Too bad rest of the normal workings of the sequencer really doesn't have much appeal compare to competitors

[crimsonwarlock]

Too bad rest of the normal workings of the sequencer really doesn't have much appeal compare to competitors

Every DAWs sequencer is missing things that other DAWs have, yet people seem to be able to use them for music making.

The Reason sequencer is perfectly adequate for me, and I like it because it isn't overloaded with options and functions (that most of us never use). Yet, it still has features that many other DAWs still lack (and those are features that I DO use, like block mode).

[hotmitts]

There are always the mob complaints that the latest DAW update is an insult etc etc and that it's all going to hell etc etc. It's the KVR ritual.

[kmonkey]

As far as the MIDI thing goes, I just discovered the free Kushview Elements host/vst which can chain MIDI to VST very easily within Reason. it's a piece of cake ( not sure you can drag MIDI out, probably have to export then import)
I know someone said no workarounds but this one's very easy

Care to explain or provide a video or some tut?*

[carambo]

Anyway, I am sorry, I'm not generally this kind of person criticizing products other people like.
I guess I am still upset at buying the v13 upgrade and understanding after 15min that I will never use it.

I just can't accept that v11 brought grains and Europa among many other stuffs and v13.... The sad Polytone....

I hope you will survive through this difficult time in your personal life