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Teksonik wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:16 pm However I'm still getting stuck notes with Arp in Chord Mode in both DAWs.
Did you turn on the strum parameter when that happended? hanging notes are usually related to using strumming with the arp. I thought I fixed it, but looks like not completely.
Teksonik wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:16 pm Then I got this twice. It happened while loading my own presets into Layers from within the Browser. I did have Fixed Size Buffers On in FLS :
Could you possibly send me those presets so I can test?

Thanks so much! :hug:
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I was wondering about how the new Waveshaper effect works.
Someone here on KVR mentioned frequency domain manipulation works well for wave shaping, but I am not sure exactly how this new effect module even operates.

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Examigan wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:57 am I was wondering about how the new Waveshaper effect works.
Someone here on KVR mentioned frequency domain manipulation works well for wave shaping, but I am not sure exactly how this new effect module even operates.
Hi Rob

It's a basic time domain waveshaper, distorting the audio input.
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Like a flux capacitor. I tried it out a month ago in your next version. (JK) Wonderful! You guys rock, Bulent!

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kv331 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:16 am
Teksonik wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:16 pm However I'm still getting stuck notes with Arp in Chord Mode in both DAWs.
Did you turn on the strum parameter when that happended? hanging notes are usually related to using strumming with the arp. I thought I fixed it, but looks like not completely.
No, I did not have the Strum parameter activated.
kv331 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:16 am
Teksonik wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:16 pm Then I got this twice. It happened while loading my own presets into Layers from within the Browser. I did have Fixed Size Buffers On in FLS :
Could you possibly send me those presets so I can test?

Thanks so much! :hug:
Sure, here's about a dozen or so.

01-Teksonik SM3 Free.zip

I think the issue is with trying to load several patches that have multiple layers themselves into layers. I need to work on that more see what's going on.

I did get another crash in Waveform Pro so I'm going to put SM3 aside for a bit. It seems to not like my system but the other synths I use on a daily basis don't seem to have the same issue.

I'm having a new studio system delivered tomorrow so within the next couple of weeks I'll get SM3 installed on it and see if its more stable for me then. :tu:
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We have a new update for SynthMaster 3: The version number is still 3.0.9, revision is now 15817. I made this update avaiable for all users, so you can check for updates inside the plugin window to download it.

basic osc voice modifiers.jpg

There are 3 important new features:

1. Poly Glide: This was a long time asked feature request. For poly glide to work, please set the layer voices to a low value like 6 or 8. and change the voice allocation to Analog (by default it is Digital). Please keep in mind that glide only works when the previous note state was On or when the Slide "S" button is turned on.

2. Voice modifiers for Basic Oscilllators: Basic oscillators are the most widely used oscillators, so I added voice modifiers to volume, pan, detune, phase and tone parameters. I am going to be spending the next 2 weeks creating some Oberheim type poly analog presets to demonstrate how voice modifiers can be used to create analog sounds 🙂

3. Layer number of voices can now be changed with increments of 2 voices. So you can have a layer with 6 or 10 voices.

There are also critical bug fixes:

1. Granular oscillator might crash SynthMaster 3 when layer voice allocation is static or layer poly mode is mono
2. Vector oscillator x/y axis values are not loaded correctly from SynthMaster 2 presets
3. When a dialog is moved, views behind it stay invisible
4. Distortion effect is not initialized correctly causing clicks upon initialization
5. After a preset is loaded, midi listener controls such as pitch bend slider / mod wheel slider / piano view stop responding to midi messages
6. Preset author is not read correctly from SynthMaster One presets
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kv331 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:47 am 2. Voice modifiers for Basic Oscilllators: Basic oscillators are the most widely used oscillators, so I added voice modifiers to volume, pan, detune, phase and tone parameters. I am going to be spending the next 2 weeks creating some Oberheim type poly analog presets to demonstrate how voice modifiers can be used to create analog sounds 🙂
No way ! That's amazing.

Do you think possible to add in a futur a volume/bass compensation
on the Va analog VCF resonance?

A voice modifier would be awesome as well.

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Gam456 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:19 am Do you think possible to add in a futur a volume/bass compensation
on the Va analog VCF resonance?

A voice modifier would be awesome as well.
I will add voice modifiers for filter cutoff and resonance as well :)

As for the volume compensation for VAnalog / Ladder / Diode Ladder filters: We have the "Boost" button for this purpose :)
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kv331 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:50 amI will add voice modifiers for filter cutoff and resonance as well :) As for the volume compensation for VAnalog / Ladder / Diode Ladder filters: We have the "Boost" button for this purpose :)
Love all the furious action on fixes - but is there any movement on these latest SM3 builds actually working in Komplete Kontrol v2.9.6?

Not really motivated to keep downloading all these new builds - just to have to roll back again.

Appreciate any updates on this.

VP

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kv331 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:50 am I will add voice modifiers for filter cutoff and resonance as well :)
Nice :)

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kv331 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:47 am
5. After a preset is loaded, midi listener controls such as pitch bend slider / mod wheel slider / piano view stop responding to midi messages...

...that bug still exist in Studio One 7 on Win11 64bit. After switching to another preset both modweel and pitchbend do not move anymore.

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Teksonik wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:29 pm
kv331 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:16 am
Teksonik wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:16 pm However I'm still getting stuck notes with Arp in Chord Mode in both DAWs.
Did you turn on the strum parameter when that happended? hanging notes are usually related to using strumming with the arp. I thought I fixed it, but looks like not completely.
No, I did not have the Strum parameter activated.
kv331 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:16 am
Teksonik wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:16 pm Then I got this twice. It happened while loading my own presets into Layers from within the Browser. I did have Fixed Size Buffers On in FLS :
Could you possibly send me those presets so I can test?

Thanks so much! :hug:
Sure, here's about a dozen or so.


01-Teksonik SM3 Free.zip


I think the issue is with trying to load several patches that have multiple layers themselves into layers. I need to work on that more see what's going on.

I did get another crash in Waveform Pro so I'm going to put SM3 aside for a bit. It seems to not like my system but the other synths I use on a daily basis don't seem to have the same issue.

I'm having a new studio system delivered tomorrow so within the next couple of weeks I'll get SM3 installed on it and see if its more stable for me then. :tu:
I tried it out with your presets and didn't have any issues such as crashes, etc.
I am using the latest build Bulent just mentioned about.
My DAW is Cakewalk and am using Windows 10.

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Examigan wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:21 pm I tried it out with your presets and didn't have any issues such as crashes, etc.
I am using the latest build Bulent just mentioned about.
My DAW is Cakewalk and am using Windows 10.
Did you try loading them into layers? Right Click on Patch Name and select "Load on Layer"? That was causing some crashes here.

Like I said it could be something with my system but it's a system that runs 1,000 plugins and a couple of dozen synth plugins that I use on a daily basis without any such issues, at least in recent memory. I don't remember any of the top ten synths I use crashing so make of that as you will.

I'm going to try on the new studio system to see if SM3 is more stable there but it will be a while until I get it installed.
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It is important to know the exact names of presets / the whole steps that caused the crash. I also tested with those presets by loading them into layers, but did not get any crashes
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kv331 wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:09 pm It is important to know the exact names of presets / the whole steps that caused the crash. I also tested with those presets by loading them into layers, but did not get any crashes
Well I don't know what to tell you, it's not like I'm making it up for whatever reason. I'm not beta testing your plugin I'm just using it as I would any other synth. I didn't bother to note the "exact names of presets" or the steps, it simply crashes while in normal use.

I'm using it just like I do the other synths in my collection which have not crashed for me since I upgraded to SM3 which has crashed multiple times on two DAWS. So again make of that as you will.

I'll let you know how it works on the new system with a fresh install.
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