Why is modern music so awful

[harryupbabble]

“I’m forever near a stereo saying, ‘What the f**k is this garbage?’ And the answer is always the Red Hot Chili Peppers.”—Nick Cave

You would thinky Nicky boy would find the easy way to stop this happening

he may need a new room mate
he may need a new wife
he may need to orphan his kids
lol

[lobanov]

The "old music" is music that has been selected. This is "good" (valuable) music that we retain and keep. It is not all music of the past.

The "modern music" is all music that is performed or played for the current moment.

In the past there were no less musical garbage (and musical treasures) than we have right now. The modern garbage will be forgotten and only more or less good music will be retained.

[Bunny_boy]

“I’m forever near a stereo saying, ‘What the f**k is this garbage?’ And the answer is always the Red Hot Chili Peppers.”—Nick Cave

You would thinky Nicky boy would find the easy way to stop this happening

[...]
he may need to orphan his kids
[...]

Er........

[vurt]

“I’m forever near a stereo saying, ‘What the f**k is this garbage?’ And the answer is always the Red Hot Chili Peppers.”—Nick Cave

You would thinky Nicky boy would find the easy way to stop this happening

[...]
he may need to orphan his kids
[...]

Er........

it would definitely stop him hearing the radio.

[BertKoor]

The "old music" is music that has been selected. This is "good" (valuable) music that we retain and keep. It is not all music of the past.

The "modern music" is all music that is performed or played for the current moment.

In the past there were no less musical garbage (and musical treasures) than we have right now. The modern garbage will be forgotten and only more or less good music will be retained.

Amen

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

[vurt]

i saw the xmas top of the pops from 1984 earlier. f**k me, duran duran were bad! as were the thomson twins.

[mjolnir]

i love duran duran. eff the thompson twins

[vurt]

i love duran duran. eff the thompson twins

was wild boys, simons voice sounded off to me, a bit too "present" if you get me?

the miming and "dancing" didn't help either

[vurt]

also fgth won the year for me.
i also loved adam and the ants back then.

[ghettosynth]

also fgth won the year for me.
i also loved adam and the ants back then.

"Every girl's a something girl, she's got something"

[_leras]

. Why, musically, is there a difference making all classical music (whatever that is) or jazz (whatever that means) not 'folk music'. Rhetorical question, which means putting it out there as food for thought.

Levels of booze/fun inversely proportional to virtuosity, perhaps?

[dark water]

Compared to songs of yesteryear, modern music often lacks the appropriate amount of girth...

[jamcat]

The "old music" is music that has been selected. This is "good" (valuable) music that we retain and keep. It is not all music of the past.

The "modern music" is all music that is performed or played for the current moment.

In the past there were no less musical garbage (and musical treasures) than we have right now. The modern garbage will be forgotten and only more or less good music will be retained.

Except that I feel like the public was exposed to a much larger share of the music of the day back then than it is now. In other words—there was way less of it, but people heard way more of it, and it was way better. This is objectively true.

[_leras]

I mean back to the subject, if popular music gets really so paint by numbers and tonally bland that it's not even a matter of taste, then that just opens up the possibility for someone to write some catchy things that are that much more complex, and the greater public will respond positively to that complexity. I mean that's the best outcome of music by numbers.

Well many electronic genres have done themselves to death and ended up fading out.

There have been plenty of new iterations that have produced loads of great music.

I'd say there is also more complexity in modern music production as well as generally better production values.

Just taking electronic music, there has never been a larger base of music to draw inspiration from, never been a time with so much openly available production education, never been better tools. How can the outcome possibly be worse music?

The sentiments in this thread are like people who still think Sasha and digweed are the best ever. Of course they were great, but there's been 20+ years of great electronic music since then.

[machinesworking]

I mean back to the subject, if popular music gets really so paint by numbers and tonally bland that it's not even a matter of taste, then that just opens up the possibility for someone to write some catchy things that are that much more complex, and the greater public will respond positively to that complexity. I mean that's the best outcome of music by numbers.

Well many electronic genres have done themselves to death and ended up fading out.

There have been plenty of new iterations that have produced loads of great music.

I'd say there is also more complexity in modern music production as well as generally better production values.

Just taking electronic music, there has never been a larger base of music to draw inspiration from, never been a time with so much openly available production education, never been better tools. How can the outcome possibly be worse music?

The sentiments in this thread are like people who still think Sasha and digweed are the best ever. Of course they were great, but there's been 20+ years of great electronic music since then.

One thing that is happening that's going to cause issues is there's a bean counter tendency to take options away from people, and electronic music devices are great examples. Dance music in all of of it's forms being the dominant macro genre of electronic music has resulted in hardware manufacturers stripping out massive parts of music fundamentals from their devices. Specifically hardware coming out with only 4/4 as a meter, and no ability to change tempo in a song. This probably doesn't seem that bad to most people because it's rare for dance music to have those elements anyway, but the fact that it becomes that much harder to use them in modern hardware like Maschine+, Push 3, MPC 3, Circuit, and on the software side XO, Maschine 3 etc. is frustrating for me.

Fortunately this hasn't happened with DAWs on the computer, but it's just a f*cking annoying phenomena to watch as someone whose loved me some odd time signatures, BreakCore and experimental Hip Hop.