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our Hi is already stupid.
but Ki is even worse !!!

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AI but no HUMAN I !!!

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The Audiomodern Playbeat 4 update to be released soon will apparently have AI randomization.

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llze wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:14 pm Orb plugins – AI Inside your DAW
https://www.orbplugins.com/
It seems Orb Plugins has been acquired by LANDR and the product is now called LANDR Composer.
https://www.landr.com/plugins/landr-composer

This is the closest to what I want “AI”
to do in a DAW, an intelligent composition aid that outputs MIDI. I don’t know or really care if it lives up to the AI designation, but I think basic music theory is a narrow enough subject that an AI model could be trained thoroughly enough but remain small. If LANDR adds a bit more guitar specific features then it would be my ideal AI DAW assistant (tab, guitar specific chord voicing, triads…).

I agree that most of the “AI” audio effects and processors would more accurately be called machine learning derived, but they really do tend to be a step above regular algorithm plugins — I had given up on amp sims ever having the right feel, but ToneX (etc.) delivers in spades!

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guitarzan wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:29 pm
llze wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:14 pm Orb plugins – AI Inside your DAW
https://www.orbplugins.com/
It seems Orb Plugins has been acquired by LANDR and the product is now called LANDR Composer.
https://www.landr.com/plugins/landr-composer

This is the closest to what I want “AI”
to do in a DAW, an intelligent composition aid that outputs MIDI. I don’t know or really care if it lives up to the AI designation, but I think basic music theory is a narrow enough subject that an AI model could be trained thoroughly enough but remain small. If LANDR adds a bit more guitar specific features then it would be my ideal AI DAW assistant (tab, guitar specific chord voicing, triads…).

I agree that most of the “AI” audio effects and processors would more accurately be called machine learning derived, but they really do tend to be a step above regular algorithm plugins — I had given up on amp sims ever having the right feel, but ToneX (etc.) delivers in spades!
Algorithms dedicated to composing have been a thing for a while in academia, some of the most impressive ones have even got their compositions played by orchestra.

Don't know what is stopping any company from licensing one of those.
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veloheinz wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:55 pm our Hi is already stupid.
but Ki is even worse !!!
Hmm, yes.

Then there's AS (artificial stupidity). Perhaps 'AI' is just another one of those spellcheck fails.

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AI, NS... there is machine learning. When a machine becomes sentient you will have many seconds left to enjoy.

AI makes for good copy, though. Sure it sells well.
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guitarzan wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:29 pm
llze wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:14 pm Orb plugins – AI Inside your DAW
https://www.orbplugins.com/
It seems Orb Plugins has been acquired by LANDR and the product is now called LANDR Composer.
https://www.landr.com/plugins/landr-composer
Oh wow, didn't notice. I even have a license for Orb Producer 3, wondering how that is handled now, hm.
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since when, Ive had no notification about this...
llze wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 7:04 pm
guitarzan wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:29 pm
llze wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:14 pm Orb plugins – AI Inside your DAW
https://www.orbplugins.com/
It seems Orb Plugins has been acquired by LANDR and the product is now called LANDR Composer.
https://www.landr.com/plugins/landr-composer
Oh wow, didn't notice. I even have a license for Orb Producer 3, wondering how that is handled now, hm.

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It’s announced right on page llze originally linked to:
https://www.orbplugins.com/
Announcement
LANDR, the industry leader in AI-powered music creation and production tools, announced the acquisition of Orb Plugins…

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but no words about existing customers anywhere, I was able to download the software from my initial license mail though.
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The LANDR acquisition of Orb Plugins was announced here on KVR October 17, 2024. There is a brief reference to ‘existing subscribers’, but I suppose that could mean existing LANDR subscribers:
https://www.kvraudio.com/news/landr-acq ... logy-61905
LANDR Composer is available now as part of selected LANDR Studio subscription plans. New and existing subscribers can access the software immediately…
The legacy original Orb Plugins are still available to download also:
How to Access Legacy Orb Plugins Downloads

That’s about it so far regarding existing Orb customers though.

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I’m very interested in AI plugins. Because I don’t trust them for a second.

This is some kind of sound research to me. I can’t wait to see what new tools they’re bringing to us. Some websites make an entire song from a couple of words, some plugins master your track automatically...

To me they’re all fascinating to try and reverse-engineer. Sometimes I learn things, sometimes not. Anyway, what they call "AI" at the moment is barely usable to me, but funny and intriguing to try. I want to get how they think these tools are clever, maybe I missed something sometimes, maybe not. Well, let’s try and see ! I’m trying them all. That still appears much more exciting to me than the 25383883th Pultec emulation plugin just released... :tu:

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guitarzan wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:42 pm The LANDR acquisition of Orb Plugins was announced here on KVR October 17, 2024. There is a brief reference to ‘existing subscribers’, but I suppose that could mean existing LANDR subscribers:
https://www.kvraudio.com/news/landr-acq ... logy-61905
LANDR Composer is available now as part of selected LANDR Studio subscription plans. New and existing subscribers can access the software immediately…
The legacy original Orb Plugins are still available to download also:
How to Access Legacy Orb Plugins Downloads

That’s about it so far regarding existing Orb customers though.
Thank you for looking into it. Yea, the Orb Producer wasn't a subscription in the first place. Also there has been no information via email to existing customers afaik. Well, not using them much anyway.
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