FR: Still no DAW-synced MMultiAnalyzer Wave-Form Mode like in Oszillos Mega Scope or PsyScope???
- KVRAF
- 2482 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
I have asked a few months ago about a daw-synced wave form display in MMultiAnalyser like in PsyScope or Oszillos Mega Scope. The scrolling display is simply not usuable for the use case of aligning bdr and bass on a detail level. If you add much detail then the scrolling gets way to fast. No chance to see how Bdr and Bass interact in the area of overlap. I can go with PsyScope free, but this does not offer the Multi-Channel display. PsyScope Pro is not possible in Bitwig, because Bitwig does not support multiple ins ... and on top ... I own MMultiAnalyser and what if not this use case is determined to be a use case of MMultiAnalyser.
My request was kind of ignored by the Melda-Team back then.
Any chance to get this someday in the near future?
My request was kind of ignored by the Melda-Team back then.
Any chance to get this someday in the near future?
Last edited by ] Peter:H [ on Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 21 Dec, 2024
Agreed! MultiAnalyser has a very nice functionality, it's a shame seeing it miss a few very important features. Not only the above-mentioned issue, but also: somehow we can't audition frequencies on the spectrogram (using a hotkey or whatever), though in MAnalyser - we can! It's the second time I write it: a less functional FREE plugin has a feature, whereas a powerful paid version DOES NOT. And yes, the wave-form view is almost useless, it misses daw-sync, it misses proper zoom/gain-control, that is being totally devastated by OszillosMegaScope which does ALL of it and many more. It's a big bummer actually since MultiAnalyzer has a very huge potential, having all that stuff with multitrack analysis, frequency collisions etc.
Seems like our MultiAnalyzer is far from being "multi", yes, actually it's raw. Like it was a very powerful conception that was later ditched...
Seems like our MultiAnalyzer is far from being "multi", yes, actually it's raw. Like it was a very powerful conception that was later ditched...
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2482 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
This.zuhizuhi wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:23 pm ALL of it and many more. It's a big bummer actually since MultiAnalyzer has a very huge potential, having all that stuff with multitrack analysis, frequency collisions etc.
Seems like our MultiAnalyzer is far from being "multi", yes, actually it's raw. Like it was a very powerful conception that was later ditched...![]()
- KVRian
- 965 posts since 12 May, 2019
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2482 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
I see ... my stupid DAW cannot handle mutliple INs. And I really want to be able to see the "contribution" of the individual channels and isolated effects of moving phase of a individual channel ... not only the sum
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Fun note: Because I'm really annoyed by this lack of obvious functionality, I started to write me a PoC on my own: I use protoplug / Lua, I have added tcp sockets (LuaSocket) to it ... and only a minute ago I was able to send sample data of a Sender Version of my Code on Channel A in Bitwig, to a Receiver Version of my Code on Channel B and display the waveform...
The code is a PoC, i.e. lacks syncing, lacks multi inputs and a bit more stability would help as well ... but it was a fun project to do. By the tremendous decrease of feedback to customers questions/request on this forum, I think we gonna get no answer or the typical "won't happen" ... therefore the options is buy other stuff or do it on your own.
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 21 Dec, 2024
I'm afraid I agree, but still it's worth noting that we do not ask for some unheard of ethereal functionality, but for some obvious essential modern basics. And again, I don't get this: if there is an option to make your production (plugins) more competitive and versatile and simply better, why don't do this? Given this should not be very difficult, especially for Melda.] Peter:H [ wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:49 pm By the tremendous decrease of feedback to customers questions/request on this forum, I think we gonna get no answer or the typical "won't happen" ... therefore the options is buy other stuff or do it on your own.
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- KVRist
- 380 posts since 9 Dec, 2014
Despite the fact that Vojtech occasionally rejects implementing interesting changes, he generally attends to user requests. And although it is true that he does not frequent the forum much, he does pop in from time to time and responds to user comments en masse. I truly believe he is a good guy!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2482 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
Vojtech is a very responsive and user oriented dev ... one of the best in the industry!vanerio wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:32 pm Despite the fact that Vojtech occasionally rejects implementing interesting changes, he generally attends to user requests. And although it is true that he does not frequent the forum much, he does pop in from time to time and responds to user comments en masse. I truly believe he is a good guy!
Since the time he sold his baby MeldaProduction, I figure he stepped back into the second row ... and the new first row is far less responsive. Don't know whether it's a kind of "self defense" ... Vojtechs responsiveness was always a reason to say to myself "buying into Melda was the right decision" ... no comparison with the complete lack of customer interaction of bitwig on kvr for instance.
Long story short: Didn't want to sound disrespectful ... let's call it rather "sad that the past days have gone" ...
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 21 Dec, 2024
That's good to hear =) Actually yes, that's the kind of people who creates amazing innovations and then goes "into the second row" when things go more commercial. Think Steve Jobs - Mac situation.] Peter:H [ wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:58 pm Vojtech is a very responsive and user oriented dev ... one of the best in the industry!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2482 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
I bump this ...
I had reported that I'm pulling off sth on my own. It's now a beat synced sample oscilloscope with up to 4 inputs and a RMS display. In the screenshop you see two inputs: red is a brd, green a psy trance base and orange lines depicting the rms of each of the 4 beats. It's still only a PoC ... but, hey, Melda, I'm just an amateur and I was able to pull this off within like a few days.
The Inputs Channels are sending the data via TCP/IP to the Collector which then is rendering stuff.
All done in Lua with Protoplug. I'm not yet showing the Code ... it's terrible
I had reported that I'm pulling off sth on my own. It's now a beat synced sample oscilloscope with up to 4 inputs and a RMS display. In the screenshop you see two inputs: red is a brd, green a psy trance base and orange lines depicting the rms of each of the 4 beats. It's still only a PoC ... but, hey, Melda, I'm just an amateur and I was able to pull this off within like a few days.
The Inputs Channels are sending the data via TCP/IP to the Collector which then is rendering stuff.
All done in Lua with Protoplug. I'm not yet showing the Code ... it's terrible
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2482 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
Give up on this FR? What do you think?
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2482 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
Just a little update on my attempts to build a beat synced "Multi-in" Oscilloscope on my own.
As you might have followed this thread, I have build a PoC solution for a "multi-in" Oscilloscope based on Protoplug/Lua. The source channels transmit their sample data via TCP/IP to the receiver side where it is displayed.
TCP/IP allows me to run my source channels in the DAW and the receiver side elsewhere ...
And this is what you see here: Source Channels is Bitwig and receiver side runs in Tone2 Nanohost which is a standalone progi for VSTs
So hey, Melda ... don't tell me you cannot do this. I'm a good programmer but not a genius. I bet you can do this in less than 5 days.
As you might have followed this thread, I have build a PoC solution for a "multi-in" Oscilloscope based on Protoplug/Lua. The source channels transmit their sample data via TCP/IP to the receiver side where it is displayed.
TCP/IP allows me to run my source channels in the DAW and the receiver side elsewhere ...
And this is what you see here: Source Channels is Bitwig and receiver side runs in Tone2 Nanohost which is a standalone progi for VSTs
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2482 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
Just a bump ... for when the Melda-Team might finally show up again on monday 13.01.2025 .. after ignoring this thread and others beginning from about mid december ... where's Melda? Is he only coming up with usefull posts on fb these days?
