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CrystalWizard wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:16 am AI, NS... there is machine learning. When a machine becomes sentient you will have many seconds left to enjoy.

AI makes for good copy, though. Sure it sells well.
You're confusing AI and AGI.

AI is just a name for a sub-field of Computer Science that encompasses many things, from LISP and Prolog, through Fuzzy Logic microcontrollers, through Decision Support Systems to Neural Networks and Deep Learning.

The only questionable thing would be whether old style static gradient descent machine learning stuff like Kalman Filters and suggestion systems and economenttics are AI (they're not), because if they are then analog modelling using solvers is AI.

Generators/Transformers, and therefore LLMs are Neural Networks, therefore it is AI.

AI doesn't mean "sentient machines", that's just a media and science fiction trope. It means computing that uses models of human intelligence to compute in different ways, that are not just direct applications of boolean logic and Turing/Von Neumann machines.

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gearwatcher wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:38 pm
CrystalWizard wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:16 am AI, NS... there is machine learning. When a machine becomes sentient you will have many seconds left to enjoy.

AI makes for good copy, though. Sure it sells well.
You're confusing AI and AGI.
No, i am not (i'm quite familiar with the terms and concepts).
AI is just a name for a sub-field of Computer Science that encompasses many things, from LISP and Prolog, through Fuzzy Logic microcontrollers, through Decision Support Systems to Neural Networks and Deep Learning.
Some would label that machine learning, some would label it AI.
The only questionable thing would be whether old style static gradient descent machine learning stuff like Kalman Filters and suggestion systems and economenttics are AI (they're not), because if they are then analog modelling using solvers is AI.

Generators/Transformers, and therefore LLMs are Neural Networks, therefore it is AI.

AI doesn't mean "sentient machines", that's just a media and science fiction trope. It means computing that uses models of human intelligence to compute in different ways, that are not just direct applications of boolean logic and Turing/Von Neumann machines.
Generators/Transformers-LLMs, are indeed " Neural Networks."

A science fiction trope of today can be a reality tomorrow.

I have a good bit of experience with these tools as apparently do you, if you can show me where Neural Networks are definitely labeled AI, i'd be glad to check it out.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence

Scroll down as for some reason I can't find a way to grab in-page anchors on the phone.


It says, as I said, it's a field of Computer Science. Machine learning is a sub field of AI.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_learning

Neural Networks are, indeed, Machine Learning. And therefore they're AI.

Neither Prolog, nor Lisp nor Fuzzy Logic are ML, but are still AI.

Lisp and Prolog would be, along with belonging to the subfield of AI, also studied under subfield of Programming Languages Theory within the field of Computer Science. Would belonging to either subfield somehow exclude these programming languages from Computer Science? Well, same applies to ANNs.

Roughly speaking, it's { CS { AI { ML { ANNs } } }.

https://people.engr.tamu.edu/guni/csce4 ... Norvig.pdf

You will find a chapter on NNs in this textbook for university subject called Artificial Intelligence.

You do realise that the field of Artificial Intelligence exists since the 50s and ANNs in it since 70s or 80s. None of this was invented by Google/DewpMind, Openai or Andrew Ng. AI was part of Computer Science since there was a single digit number of computers in the world. The very term was coined by none other than Alan Turing.

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can i put a neuralink chip in my brain so i can become smarter and make better presets on u-he zebra 2 ?
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martiu wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:45 pm can i put a neuralink chip in my brain so i can become smarter and make better presets on u-he zebra 2 ?
You probably can.. but the downside is that you'll have Elon Musk whispering in your ear while he pretends to play Path of Exile 2. So ask yourself this: "Is it worth it?" :hihi:
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