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Sorry, I've gotten caught up in the holiday cheer in recent days but I have had time to work with SM3 further.

I'm happy to say that it is much more stable on my new system with a fresh install. I suppose 6 years of SM installations, updates, etc could have contributed to instability issues on the old system.

I got one crash in FL Studio but that was before I remembered to set fixed size buffers to on again and since then it has been totally stable.

Loading Presets into Layers works perfectly now in 3.0.9 and I've been using it just the same way I was before so that issue appears to be fixed. Some insanely complex and beautiful patches can be achieved by loading presets into Layers so that's a feature I look forward to using a great deal going forward. Very powerful.

However I do still get stuck notes with Arp in Chord Mode. Sometimes it happens right away, sometimes it takes a couple of minutes of rigorous play but it happens eventually in both FL Studio and Waveform Pro.

I ran a test in Waveform where I layered up two other synths that have Arp-Chord Mode and played all three simultaneously to rule out my MIDI controller as a possible cause but the other two synths never got stuck notes while SM3 always did eventually so that would tend to rule out my midi controller as a cause.

INIT a patch, turn on Arp, set to Chord Mode, set to 1/16, play from a midi controller, a stuck note will happen eventually.

So I don't know what to tell you. I've tried to intentionally cause a stuck note but can't, it just happens randomly. It seems to happen most when changing notes in a chord while continuing to hold other notes. :shrug:

Some other things I've noticed....Phaser "Sync to Beat" seems to not function as one would expect. It continues to read out in Hz rather than in 1/4, 1/8, etc and the timing doesn't seem to change much from knob at zero to knob at full so if someone could check that out to see if they can reproduce the issue that would be great.

A minor issue but when loading a new Layer it loads up Muted which seems to be a bit counter-intuitive. When you load a new layer it seems like you'd be wanting to work with it so in my opinion it should load up Soloed or neither muted or soloed.

Anyone notice that the Cursors will sometimes get "stuck". This is something going back to SM 2 and perhaps before but sometimes the up/down arrow cursor will get "stuck" when the pointer cursor or up/down/left/right cursor should show and vice versa. Doesn't affect functionality but it is visually disconcerting.

Anyway Happy New Year to everyone. Looking forward to see what 2025 brings in the music world. :party:
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Hello,
I've got licenses for Synthmaster 2, Synthmaster One, and now Synthmaster 3.
I got an email on the 27th with an incredible deal: the Everything Bundle for $40! (I assumed USD, I'm in Canada. It'll still be a deal to get all those expansions that I don't already have.)
I clicked the link in the email that had my discount code. My cart total, when using the coupon code should be $40, right?
Well, using the link in the email to get to the product, I'm confronted by some confusing pricing options:
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what choice should I make? None of these prices look like the prices mentioned in the email, and I've got licenses for ALL of those products and combinations...so which offer should I actually be taking?
I started with the top option, which also has the lowest price shown here ($80.30). Add that to the cart, go to the cart, see that my coupon code has been added:
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PROCEED TO PAYMENT, with the coupon code in the box, and...
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$80.30 is not $40.00...

here's the text from the email:
Our Everything Bundle users have access to SynthMaster 3 as the bundle already includes it. Since you made purchases from our shop in the past, we created an upgrade coupon code for you, in case you are interested to upgrade to our Everything Bundle. Our Everything Bundle is currently 40% OFF / $179 during our Winter Sale. The sale lasts until January 19.

Your coupon code is: XXXXXXXX-XXXXXXXXXXX and it will give you $99 towards purchasing Everything Bundle for $40 (Just so you know, this coupon can only be used towards purchasing the full product, it doesn't apply to upgrades/crossgrades from other products. and just like our Spring Sale, the coupon is valid until January 19)
The math doesn't work, either: $179 - 99 = 80. Which is the amount showing in the cart, sure, but it's not $40. Was $40 a typo, and it's supposed to be $80 for the Everything Bundle?

Please advise,
thanks,
Bud.
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blatanville wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:52 am Hello,
I've got licenses for Synthmaster 2, Synthmaster One, and now Synthmaster 3.
I got an email on the 27th with an incredible deal: the Everything Bundle for $40! (I assumed USD, I'm in Canada. It'll still be a deal to get all those expansions that I don't already have.)
I clicked the link in the email that had my discount code. My cart total, when using the coupon code should be $40, right?
Hi Bud

Can you please PM me your registered email address?

The everything bundle credit is calculated by summing up the user's transactions. When importing that data to our email provider ymlp.com there was an error. Normally a user can purchase the everything bundle for ($179 - credit amount). But that purchase price was entered incorrectly into ymlp database ($40 less which brings up the bundle price to $139). I will investigate the reason for that, I am 100% sure that I uploaded the correct values.
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Hi guys,

We have a new update for SynthMaster 3: v3.1.0. This update brings 2 new skins by my brother Levent Bıyıkoğlu : Dark Skin and White Skin. Please take a look at those, and report any issues you see (such as readability of items, mismatching colors, etc)

Dark Skin.jpg
White Skin.jpg


We also have 3 bug fixes in this update:

1. Deleting the last keyframe of a line source and then inserting a keyframe at the end crashes SynthMaster 3
2. Deleting a keyframe might crash SynthMaster 3
3. Rearranging modules in routing view might crash SynthMaster 3

As usual, please check for updates inside SynthMaster 3 to downlooad this update.

Happy new year from KV331 Audio!

Bulent
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Happy New Year Bulent.
On mac, where you change the global skin is at a different place in the original tranquil blue skin than the new skin..
Personally I prefer consistency.
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kv331 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:31 am Happy new year from KV331 Audio!

Bulent
A happy new year to you as well and fingers crossed that SM3 will get the recognition it has earned in 2025. It really is a masterpiece! :party: :tu: :hug:

Thank you so much for all the hard work!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Cheers,

Tom
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I updated to SM3 3.1 (thanks!).
When I first opened the standalone, all was well, but when I changed the skin I got this:
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With different Skin sizes the white area was consistently there.

I never had that issue before with different GUI sizes, so I guess you changed something?

It could be related to me running Windows at a scale of 125% on this laptop (Display settings - I had issues with a small number of applications that did not like that particular setting.

I'll check some other settings now...

EDIT: As I guessed, it works fine with 100% scale and 150% scale.
125% is not recommended by Microsoft, but it's what works best on this particular screen...

EDIT 2: I solved the issue in the meantime - see below.
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v3.1

- still missing the voice modifier vintage on the filter VANALOG

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Interesting: After changing the scaling back and forth, now everything works at 125% too...?

It seems something got reset by me doing this, as before Windows told me I had set a "Custom resolution", although it was also 125%. I clicked on the button they offered to "reset" my resolution and now everything seems to work just fine.
Maybe some Windows update messed up something there.

So you can probably ignore my issue above.

EDIT: Curioser and curioser: Now the issue is back again without me changing anything further in Windows settings. Scaling at 125% and getting a wide white area like in above screenshot.

Using Windows 11 on a laptop with a screensize of 17" with 2560x1440px @125% scale.

The plugin version works, it seems to only affect the standalone.
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kv331 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:31 am Hi guys,

We have a new update for SynthMaster 3: v3.1.0. This update brings 2 new skins by my brother Levent Bıyıkoğlu : Dark Skin and White Skin. Please take a look at those, and report any issues you see (such as readability of items, mismatching colors, etc)


Dark Skin.jpg

White Skin.jpg



We also have 3 bug fixes in this update:

1. Deleting the last keyframe of a line source and then inserting a keyframe at the end crashes SynthMaster 3
2. Deleting a keyframe might crash SynthMaster 3
3. Rearranging modules in routing view might crash SynthMaster 3

As usual, please check for updates inside SynthMaster 3 to downlooad this update.

Happy new year from KV331 Audio!

Bulent
I love the new skins! I have only one suggestion:

On the dark skin, the section on the right is too dark. You can't see what fields are there if you don't have something in them. For example, on the light skin, you can see the full "Source", "Via" and "Target" fields. On the dark skin, you cannot see the full field box. Lightening it up just slightly (enough to see the full field box), would be an improvement. :)
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One thing I forgot to mention above is that I don't see a way to order patches alphabetically in my custom bank. They're ordered by date created which makes pre-tagging them pointless....

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Also am I doing something wrong with the search by type function? I select "Synth Lead" under Instrument Type and "Lead" under Attributes and it still shows other types like Arp, Bas, Bel, etc.....


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I'll try version 3.1.0 to see if I find any other issues beyond what I reported in this post and above.

EDIT: INIT a patch. Go to Layer FX and load a Phaser. Listen to the changes when moving the Speed knob. Now turn on Sync and move the Speed knob again. No change in speed and the read out is still in Hz.

I like the new dark skin but I'd love to see what Mikael Eidenberg could do with SM3....

https://mikaeleidenberg.com/
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Teksonik wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:22 pm ...
I got one crash in FL Studio but that was before I remembered to set fixed size buffers to on again and since then it has been totally stable.
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I never know how to set these properly...
Have you set any of these additional settings too??
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Hi Bulent,

I have still a complete install of Synthmaster One and Synthmaster 2 in parallel to Synthmaster 3 which is the only one I use on my system...

What is the exact procedure if I want to have just a clean install of Synthmaster 3 but with all of my preset banks from the previous ones??

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I would also love to know how to have a clean install of just Synthmaster 3 with all preset banks that I own.

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Trancit wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:14 am I never know how to set these properly...
Have you set any of these additional settings too??
Synthmaster.jpg
Yes I've tried both. I don't see any difference in SM3's performance with either one or the other but it may take more prolonged testing.

Most of the issues I'm reporting also occur in Waveform Pro so that would tend to indicate the issue is with SM3 itself rather with FL Studio.

This is a new one I ran across today....

When setting the Arp to "Arpeggiate Mode" sometimes notes will not trigger correctly. But it's not consistent. A pattern can play several times over without a glitch and then all of a sudden the notes start glitching.

It's pretty much the same thing that happens with the Arp in Chord mode so it feels like there is an issue with triggering in the Arp. I tested with an older version of SM3 (3.0.4) and this issue did not occur so something must have changed between then and 3.1.0. Tested on two different systems (Win 10 and Win 11)

In this image you can see the simple pattern and the dropped notes in the rendered audio (it's an Arp patch set to 1/8 so there should be 4 notes triggered per note in the piano roll). Again it's inconsistent. That pattern could play several times without a glitch, or glitch at the start of several notes in a row.

SM3 Arp Test 010125-2.png

As an update, installing 3.1.0 caused my patches to be set in alphabetical order again including newly added patches so that's a good thing. Not sure why things got out of order in the first place.
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