You can limit to induced harshness in upper frequencies by using an adequate bias curve.motomotomoto wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:39 amperhaps it emphasizes the transients but i also notice it cutting sustains somehow even in the full mix. try the default preset and crank it to max, and you will hear the sound really pumping and breathing, separating the elements of the mix. it's a harsh sound for sure, but also interesting. of course you would want to dial it back in actual use but im not sure if i could achieve this sound with any other tools i have.Dr.Gunjah wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:54 am It seems to be the opposite of intensity. While the latter fills the holes between transients this emphasizes the transients... imo similar to Boost in punch mode.
I've tried it on a house track but it made the sound harsh. I guess if you are after that aggressive monstercat-like slap-in-da-face sound this tool is for you. I prefer a more softer, rounder sound so not sure yet if I need this.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
This is a powerful tool that can do a lot of tasks if understood by the user.
Definitely not a One Knob Set and Forget thing.
I'm happy to have it.
Definitely not a One Knob Set and Forget thing.
I'm happy to have it.
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRian
- 871 posts since 20 Jun, 2010
Couture maybe?motomotomoto wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:39 am perhaps it emphasizes the transients but i also notice it cutting sustains somehow even in the full mix. try the default preset and crank it to max, and you will hear the sound really pumping and breathing, separating the elements of the mix. it's a harsh sound for sure, but also interesting. of course you would want to dial it back in actual use but im not sure if i could achieve this sound with any other tools i have.
The release slider does indeed change the behavior a lot. With higher release the effect seems more useful, but it doesn't seem to be a tool you want to put on everything (or even many sources).
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- KVRian
- 817 posts since 21 Jan, 2017
Can anyone whose bought or demo'd it make a yt vid showing what it can do? Preferably just bypassed/on flipping through on dif. sources. Curious what this can do but not enough to jump through the hoops of getting the demo.
Even audio file examples would be welcomed.
Even audio file examples would be welcomed.
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- Topic Starter
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Why not demoing it?nusound mind wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:32 pm Can anyone whose bought or demo'd it make a yt vid showing what it can do? Preferably just bypassed/on flipping through on dif. sources. Curious what this can do but not enough to jump through the hoops of getting the demo.
Even audio file examples would be welcomed.
I use it already often but I'm not willing to do the foot work for someone else, sorry.
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRist
- 479 posts since 20 Mar, 2024
what hoops? way less work you trying the demo than someone else making you a video for nothingnusound mind wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:32 pm Can anyone whose bought or demo'd it make a yt vid showing what it can do? Preferably just bypassed/on flipping through on dif. sources. Curious what this can do but not enough to jump through the hoops of getting the demo.
Even audio file examples would be welcomed.
- KVRAF
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
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- KVRian
- 817 posts since 21 Jan, 2017
So I ended up dl'ing the demo after all, and tested it out on a few tracks. Wasn't too sold on it at first, esp. after some eyeballed level matching; but eventually it impressed.
I'm still not fully convinced it's not just a new era sausage fattener or fancified dynamic eq booster, but on some stuff it has interesting dynamics going on that sound about right and could save time mixing wise.
Plus it's a reasonable cpu hit, ranging from 3-8% on my system. Which is an alright set up, but not crazy good, pretty mid range.
I'm still not fully convinced it's not just a new era sausage fattener or fancified dynamic eq booster, but on some stuff it has interesting dynamics going on that sound about right and could save time mixing wise.
Plus it's a reasonable cpu hit, ranging from 3-8% on my system. Which is an alright set up, but not crazy good, pretty mid range.
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- KVRian
- 1073 posts since 8 Mar, 2009
this thing is pretty phenomenal in the "smooth"mode. set it at like 0.10 with a release of about 50 and it can push even the most room and overhead driven miked kit to the forefront and give it the perception of actual closed miked transients. that's pretty crazy and it doesn't seem to be working like any other transient shaper i have awareness of either. literally sounds like source enhancement which is a rare quantity with plugins IMO. the phase distortion in the "crystal" mode though is pretty insane and over the top. would like to see a linear phase option for two buss/mix buss/ mastering duties
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- KVRian
- 817 posts since 21 Jan, 2017
I've only used crystal mode on drums a couple times, but in every other instance I prefer smooth. Crystal seems too brittle sounding so far.
The more I use this the more convinced i get. Still well within honeymoon phase however. Hopefully they add some more waveform presets by final release, or better yet a mix knob, if possible.
The more I use this the more convinced i get. Still well within honeymoon phase however. Hopefully they add some more waveform presets by final release, or better yet a mix knob, if possible.
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- KVRist
- 163 posts since 22 Feb, 2013
Now try your same exact setup with a custom curve that boosts the upper 2/3rds of the graph just a bit, sorta resembling a high shelfTIMT wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:36 am this thing is pretty phenomenal in the "smooth"mode. set it at like 0.10 with a release of about 50 and it can push even the most room and overhead driven miked kit to the forefront and give it the perception of actual closed miked transients. that's pretty crazy and it doesn't seem to be working like any other transient shaper i have awareness of either. literally sounds like source enhancement which is a rare quantity with plugins IMO. the phase distortion in the "crystal" mode though is pretty insane and over the top. would like to see a linear phase option for two buss/mix buss/ mastering duties
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- KVRian
- 1073 posts since 8 Mar, 2009
Was already using the bell, but it was just about on, so thought it wasn't worth mentioningSNBeatz wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:06 amNow try your same exact setup with a custom curve that boosts the upper 2/3rds of the graph just a bit, sorta resembling a high shelfTIMT wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:36 am this thing is pretty phenomenal in the "smooth"mode. set it at like 0.10 with a release of about 50 and it can push even the most room and overhead driven miked kit to the forefront and give it the perception of actual closed miked transients. that's pretty crazy and it doesn't seem to be working like any other transient shaper i have awareness of either. literally sounds like source enhancement which is a rare quantity with plugins IMO. the phase distortion in the "crystal" mode though is pretty insane and over the top. would like to see a linear phase option for two buss/mix buss/ mastering duties![]()
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- KVRist
- 172 posts since 1 Aug, 2015
just to say that PUNCH not only a top quality but it can replace a lot of plugin in your chains you might using to bring your mix or single instance audio to front or push it back if you want . it's something else that exists out there when it comes to dynamics enhancements . it's like transient shaper and yet it's not . at least it deserves trial . it's spectacular !
