Submix and Submix Tracks show incorrect output assignemts in Mixer Views (WF 13.2.0, Windows 10).
Tracks 1-4 are assigned to Bus 1, Tracks 5-8 are assigned to Bus 2.
The in-line output panel within the track shows the correct output options and assignments (Bus outputs are assigned, Tracks have no options).
Other mixer views do not follow and display this correctly (no Bus output assignments, Tracks are assigned).
Tracktion Request ID: 69069
PS: The in-line output panel needs a complete redesign and overhaul.
WaveForm Submix/Tracks Show Incorrect Output Assignments in Mixer Views
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jurij.es.a.szakkor jurij.es.a.szakkor https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=53332
- KVRist
- 50 posts since 31 Dec, 2004
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Last edited by jurij.es.a.szakkor on Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 4891 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
Yeah, there are definitely some odd behaviours going on here. I never use the mixer, so I'm not likely to run into it but I did try to test things. I'm using Waveform Pro 13.3.2 on Windows 10.
Most things work as expected when you use the plugin/output area at the right-hand side of the track. The same is true of the Track Destination control in the Controls Panel when a track is selected. The one exception I've noticed is that sometimes the visual changes on the track either don't re-draw right away or they don't re-draw at all, ie. it might continue to say "feeds into track 5" after the destination has changed to something else until you mouse over it. The control at the right edge only seems to update once.
But the track destination visual in the mixer should probably only be on the Submix lane and should not be on the individual track lane within a Submix group. What's interesting is that it works as a control - you can change the Submix's destination - but it doesn't ever show the destination in the Submix lane the way that it needlessly does in the individual track lanes.
Using the mixer, you can kind of change the track destination for the individual tracks. It definitely doesn't work as expected.
Changing the destination of the first track (eg. Track 1.1 in my image) to another track within the same Submix group will result in audio going nowhere.
Changing the destination of the first track again to a track outside the Submix group will result in the audio from the entire Submix to seem to go to multiple destinations - the original audio output and the other selected track. I think that the Submix group is only being routed to the other selected track, even though some places it claims to be going to both.
Changing the destination of any other track in the Submic group does nothing. It seems to just be ignored, although the visual component does at least claim that it's being routed elsewhere.
To sum up, the mixer lanes in a Submix group should have the visual and the control on the Submix lane. It probably shouldn't have the visual and definitely shouldn't have the controls on the individual lanes. I think most of the other oddities would take care of themselves if that were fixed.
Most things work as expected when you use the plugin/output area at the right-hand side of the track. The same is true of the Track Destination control in the Controls Panel when a track is selected. The one exception I've noticed is that sometimes the visual changes on the track either don't re-draw right away or they don't re-draw at all, ie. it might continue to say "feeds into track 5" after the destination has changed to something else until you mouse over it. The control at the right edge only seems to update once.
But the track destination visual in the mixer should probably only be on the Submix lane and should not be on the individual track lane within a Submix group. What's interesting is that it works as a control - you can change the Submix's destination - but it doesn't ever show the destination in the Submix lane the way that it needlessly does in the individual track lanes.
Using the mixer, you can kind of change the track destination for the individual tracks. It definitely doesn't work as expected.
Changing the destination of the first track (eg. Track 1.1 in my image) to another track within the same Submix group will result in audio going nowhere.
Changing the destination of the first track again to a track outside the Submix group will result in the audio from the entire Submix to seem to go to multiple destinations - the original audio output and the other selected track. I think that the Submix group is only being routed to the other selected track, even though some places it claims to be going to both.
Changing the destination of any other track in the Submic group does nothing. It seems to just be ignored, although the visual component does at least claim that it's being routed elsewhere.
To sum up, the mixer lanes in a Submix group should have the visual and the control on the Submix lane. It probably shouldn't have the visual and definitely shouldn't have the controls on the individual lanes. I think most of the other oddities would take care of themselves if that were fixed.
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Surely there must be consensus by now...