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aanano · Post by **aanano** » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:10 pm

With Computer Music going away what is the future of the CM branded instruments like Bazille CM Dune CM Zebra CM?

martiu · Post by **martiu** » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:49 pm

no future

_leras · Post by **_leras** » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:09 pm

Well... If some online publication with enough reach can pick up where CM they could become a place for people to release demo versions.

But it's probably not really needed these days and I'm sure Devs prefer to keep the control of any cutdown or demo versions.

aanano · Post by **aanano** » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:50 pm

You think the devs will add them back to their own line up then?
I know the fantom cm dev said he wouldn't continue it at all. But Synapse and UHE maybe?

ChanceB · Post by **ChanceB** » Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:38 pm

Some of them are already outdated versions or lite versions so I wouldn’t expect much from those but I really hope U-he will continue to keep Zebra Cm and Bazille Cm updated and host downloads on their site

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:01 pm

They're dead, Jim.

I would expect no further updates, but nothing prevents you from continuing to use the existing versions into the distant future.

2NDMOUSE · Post by **2NDMOUSE** » Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:29 pm

Bounce everything to audio. Storage is cheap enough to have stem backups of everything for when you can't access the plugin anymore. Not ideal, but there's no such thing as future-proof when it comes to VSTs now.

paramita123 · Post by **paramita123** » Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:47 pm

The beautiful U-HE CM synths are VST3 so should be usable for a fairly long time.

I am particularly fond of the delightful & free Zebra CM, and wish that the paying Hive had its filters !

2NDMOUSE · Post by **2NDMOUSE** » Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:03 pm

paramita123 wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:47 pm The beautiful U-HE CM synths are VST3 so should be usable for a fairly long time.
I am particularly fond of the delightful & free Zebra CM, and wish that the paying Hive had its filters !

Even longer since U-He are one of the developers of the open-source CLAP format, and not solely reliant on VST. The sooner all developers adopt the CLAP format, the better.

MrJubbly · Post by **MrJubbly** » Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:45 am

martiu wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:49 pm
aanano wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:10 pm With Computer Music going away what is the future of the CM branded instruments like Bazille CM Dune CM Zebra CM?
no future

What? ... Computer Music magazine's publisher, "Future Plc" is also going away?

MrJubbly · Post by **MrJubbly** » Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:52 am

ChanceB wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:38 pm Some of them are already outdated versions or lite versions so I wouldn’t expect much from those but I really hope U-he will continue to keep Zebra Cm and Bazille Cm updated and host downloads on their site

u-he can at least cancel any planned Zebra3 CM release.

Probably not needed anyway, given how Zebralette3 is already a free teaser plugin for the full release.

MrJubbly · Post by **MrJubbly** » Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:56 am

2NDMOUSE wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:03 pm Even longer since U-He are one of the developers of the open-source CLAP format, and not solely reliant on VST. The sooner all developers adopt the CLAP format, the better.

100% agree!

_leras · Post by **_leras** » Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:55 pm

MrJubbly wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:45 am What? ... Computer Music magazine's publisher, "Future Plc" is also going away?

Pretty sure they are both Conde Nast or another large publisher.

Print is dead for a lot of things. Its always behind what's available online, and it's very expensive

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:58 pm

_leras wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:55 pm Pretty sure they are both Conde Nast or another large publisher.

The publisher is Future PLC, exactly as he said.

IvyBirds · Post by **IvyBirds** » Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:00 pm

2NDMOUSE wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:03 pm
paramita123 wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:47 pm The beautiful U-HE CM synths are VST3 so should be usable for a fairly long time.
I am particularly fond of the delightful & free Zebra CM, and wish that the paying Hive had its filters !
Even longer since U-He are one of the developers of the open-source CLAP format, and not solely reliant on VST. The sooner all developers adopt the CLAP format, the better.

CLAP doesn't have a long term track record like VST has, and it's not supported by a lot of DAWs

Companies can easily abandon it at any time and just not bother with it

It's not really accurate at all to say that CLAP has any longevity, it might but then again it might not, in any case it's a riskier move compared with VST

Future of CM instruments?