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Yep , I passed too . But I did update Komplete for $159 lol somebody got my money ... I'll probably switch to Reaper

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I guess it depends on whether the features you have already are able to sustain you for the duration you are going to use it. You are probably only going to use 25% of the features of a DAW in your every day workflow. Whilst the rest is what you learn and discover along the period in which you use it over the months and years you have it. Even then you may have time away from not using a DAW at all. But if you always wanted something and you were given the chance to get it at a discount, you'll probably feel like you have missed out. We don't know how the tides will turn in regard to the direction in which Studio One will go and that's partly why I snapped it up after 5 years of holding out. There is of course more value to a product if you have waited and then upgraded after a long period than one who only upgraded a year earlier just by the sheer number of features added.

I switch from Reason 7 (Spent 13 long years with it from 1.0), and picked up Studio One 2 Pro in 2014. For me there is no better DAW out there in terms of interface, workflow and features from having gone through the upgrade cycle of 3.0 to 4.6. Cubase, FLStudio, Reaper always felt like having to compromise in some way or another in a way I didn't like. Wrestling with a Frankenstein DAW just doesn't work for me. Reason was a fun DAW, but it just fell behind for what I wanted, even in the most basic of features.
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It's a shame there's no trial version, I'd try S1 v7, but buying without testing, knowing that there are still bugs, It puts me off.

I have tested other DAWs, but none of them have the workflow of S1, anywhere near.

Switching from another DAW to S1 was pleasant, it was a liberation, you enter the world of ease and fast. However, used to S1, I see switching from S1 to another DAW would be abandoning that speed, that fluidity and ease of doing things, and going back to taking more steps to do the same thing, more clicks, etc. at least with the DAWs I have tried.


J Veronica wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 7:10 pm
Id love to try Logic but I'm on Windows :?
I'd also like to try Logic, but I'm on Windows too :neutral:

So for now I'll sticking with v6, which is enough for me at the moment.

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I'm also still with v6 because, as I've said many times, there's nothing (I mean, literally nothing) in v7 that is of any use or interest to me. Let's see what happens with the 7.x feature drops and if anything changes my mind.

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This is probably completely irrelevant for many people, but I was very fascinated by the CV Instrument. So I took the plunge and bought the offer. I could do it more or less awkwardly with the Reason Rack Plugin, but the CV Instrument does a good job, especially its calibration feature!

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Sometimes I don't think a demo is really necessary, there are lots of videos on youtube that cover the features and if that's not enough....

https://www.presonus.com/pages/studio-one-pro-features
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THE INTRANCER wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:58 am Sometimes I don't think a demo is really necessary, there are lots of videos on youtube that cover the features and if that's not enough....

https://www.presonus.com/pages/studio-one-pro-features
Logic Pro's free 90-day demo says hold my beer. :uhuhuh:
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THE INTRANCER wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:58 am Sometimes I don't think a demo is really necessary, there are lots of videos on youtube that cover the features and if that's not enough....

https://www.presonus.com/pages/studio-one-pro-features
Buying without trying a demo first would only work if you are entitled to an unconditional refund if you decided the product was not suitable.

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dellboy wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 5:05 pm Buying without trying a demo first would only work if you are entitled to an unconditional refund if you decided the product was not suitable.
That mostly applies to new customers. I know many existing users of DAW‘s in my bubble who buy „blind“ the regular updates, because „that’s the way it is“. But they would never go subscription. :hihi:

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I haven't upgraded to v7, but I might do that next discount if my current setup doesn't satisfy me. Although I prefer the arrangement workflow in S1, I will spend some time with Live's arrangement for now.

Cubase 13 was a big disappointment lately :( I had two problems with it. First, Reason plugin doesn't work well with more than one instance! It produces strange noises! Second, it crashed strangely while I was just in the beginning of a project with 4 tracks still (one of them was Atomika)! It didn't even show an error message, just boom! I found myself looking at the desktop wallpaper! I lost about one hour of working :mad:

I tried the same steps with S1 v6, and no problem at all! Anyway, I have spent money upgrading my Live's and Reason's licenses this time, so I will try this solution first while I keep S1v6 and possible upgrade to v7 as a plan B.
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dellboy wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 5:05 pm
THE INTRANCER wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:58 am Sometimes I don't think a demo is really necessary, there are lots of videos on youtube that cover the features and if that's not enough....

https://www.presonus.com/pages/studio-one-pro-features
Buying without trying a demo first would only work if you are entitled to an unconditional refund if you decided the product was not suitable.
I bought Studio One (v1.6) after watching a couple of YouTube videos (didn't demo it), and I have never looked back. Today I own many of the "bigger" ones (Studio One, Cubase, Logic, FL Studio, Bitwig, Reason) and also some of the "smaller" ones (Reaper, Waveform, Renoise (even though Renoise is more of a tracker). Studio One had (still has) such an intuitive workflow (at least for me) that it leaves the other DAW's in dust.

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Yeah it is an opinion. There's a dude that shows Bitwig on youtube and talks about how great its audio manipulation capabilities are. They are indeed, but sadly it lacks a bunch of stuff that Reaper (which I thing is "Bigger") can do because I asked him; and he knows a lot.

Reaper is cheaper, comes with virtually no stock instruments, and doesn't have a grand committee behind it catering to the trends and looking for the next big thing to add- but it is bigger to me because it can do so many things so easily that other daws cannot do without sending you through the wringer or they cannot do at all; and that's a fact. You can say the same thing about other daws comparing to Reaper, but most of those options seem to be icing that people can't live without themselves, or things that are simply easier, or different (One thing you can't do is adjust playback rate in a sampler). What really sucks in other daws is the inability to add effects to an audio clip. Presonus' grand addition in 7, I believe, is this feature- a feature that has been in Reaper for longer than I can remember..

It's just interesting how marketing works. Their youtube channel is of course a marketing tool with them talking about additions like this one to Studio One. It's like basic stuff pretty much, and nothing new and earth shattering that hasn't been in other daws most of the time it seems. I am wondering if daw companies withhold features just to have something to release later. Reaper packed in what it could have and makes additions and things and what not while time goes on. It isn't corporate based with a marketing team finding ways to optimize sales, ultimately exposing, or destroying the paradigm at least in theory and understanding; although not in actuality. I am not saying to judge (entirely), I am saying just as food for thought; also to point out that it can actually be a good thing; especially can be good when it comes to features that are newer and cutting edge that a daw like Reaper may never incorporate. But, I think at this point most of the new stuff is stuff like Clip Arrangers, Loopers, Splices, A.I., Modulators, Sequencers and what have you that will never replace the bread and butter of daws. My 0.02...

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THE INTRANCER wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:58 am Studio One had (still has) such an intuitive workflow (at least for me) that it leaves the other DAW's in dust.
For me too.

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twal wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:56 am
What really sucks in other daws is the inability to add effects to an audio clip. Presonus' grand addition in 7, I believe, is this feature- a feature that has been in Reaper for longer than I can remember..
You can do this in Studio One prior to version 7, with what is called Event FX and is performed by holding ALT whilst dragging an effect from the browser to an audio clip. It's a feature that's been there since version 3.0, I can't remember for sure if it was there prior to that version though, but I think it was. The inspector provides additional controls over how Event FX effects work on an audio clip. You can render down the effect to the clip and undo that at anytime within a session depending on whether you want to save CPU cycles or not. It's one of Studio One's hidden gems.
It's just interesting how marketing works. Their youtube channel is of course a marketing tool with them talking about additions like this one to Studio One.
It's like basic stuff pretty much, and nothing new and earth shattering that hasn't been in other daws most of the time it seems. I am wondering if daw companies withhold features just to have something to release later. Reaper packed in what it could have and makes additions and things and what not while time goes on.
Features are of course planned in advance, they have to be and when they are, they are explained clearly by those working for Presonus. The Ad-Hoc development nature of Reaper is something I loath about it, but that's for another topic/thread.
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Barth1 wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:31 am
THE INTRANCER wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:58 am Studio One had (still has) such an intuitive workflow (at least for me) that it leaves the other DAW's in dust.
For me too.
These were not my words you quoted, but it's something I can't disagree with in my 24 + years of creating music on a PC.
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