was music discovered or invented?
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- KVRAF
- 7672 posts since 9 Nov, 2003 from Netherlands
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tony tony chopper tony tony chopper https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3103
- KVRAF
- 3561 posts since 20 Jun, 2002
do they? anyway I'd call that noisenope some plants in fact most do resonate at frequencys beyond our hearing
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tony tony chopper tony tony chopper https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3103
- KVRAF
- 3561 posts since 20 Jun, 2002
birds do sing melodies.. as a message/ID to other birds I guessfor animals, I think its more of a hitting frequency they enjoy than a specific set of tones or a rhythm.. though I could be wrong.. its just a guess kind of like a dog whistle..
it's both a set of tones and a rhythm
- Rad Grandad
- Topic Starter
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
like you know anything about the subjectgol wrote:do they? anyway I'd call that noisenope some plants in fact most do resonate at frequencys beyond our hearing
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- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
gol wrote:do they? anyway I'd call that noisenope some plants in fact most do resonate at frequencys beyond our hearing
as my last sentence said,depends on how you define music
im open monded enough to consider most tings musical,you show me a synthesiser with the range Gaia has of sounds let alone ways of surprising me musically on a daily basis
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
eric,ericj23 wrote: the rest of the post regarding the greek "discovery" of scales used throughout the world is so obvious and is such a clear rebuttal of your earlier statement regarding the fundaments of western music that i will just assume that you didn't comment on that in order to make yourself feel better
I'm obviously missing something here. If you could point out what statement of mine you're rebutting and how you're rebutting it I'll try a counter rebuttal (buttal?). As it is I'm just confused.
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- KVRist
- 383 posts since 11 Apr, 2004 from Midlands
Music was not discovered or invented....come on guys, we're involved in the continuous creation of it!! It started from imitating natural rhythms and sounds and developed throughout from then on, the western world invented equal temperment!!
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- KVRist
- 383 posts since 11 Apr, 2004 from Midlands
Music was not discovered or invented....come on guys, we're involved in the continuous creation of it!! It started from imitating natural rhythms and sounds and developed throughout from then on, the western world invented equal temperment!!
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
I think that the banging came before the melodies for the same reason babies bang on things along to music before they learn to sing. As man was more primitive, he just banged on shit; then the concepts of melody came to man as he developed.pheeleep wrote:I think that an appreciation of the sounds nature provides inspired people to make music themselves and create instruments.. to make melodies... imitate what nature was producing ( birds singing for example )
As far as rythm is concerned, I don't know.. someone started banging on something and thought it sounded cool?
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But I'm nowhere near an expert
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- KVRAF
- 2831 posts since 11 Jun, 2003
for animals, I think its more of a hitting frequency they enjoy than a specific set of tones or a rhythm.. though I could be wrong.. its just a guess
I think it's just because they want to get laid. if they don't sing, they don't get some..
I think it's just because they want to get laid. if they don't sing, they don't get some..
Play it by ear
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
Also, I think in animals as undeveloped and intelligent as birds, their "singing" is purely communication.
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- KVRAF
- 3508 posts since 27 Dec, 2002 from North East England
I'd define music as sound which is designed to be heard aesthetically.vurt wrote:as my last sentence said,depends on how you define music
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
That's everyone's definition. It's where noise starts to become music that people vary on.cron wrote:I'd define music as sound which is designed to be heard aesthetically.vurt wrote:as my last sentence said,depends on how you define music
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- KVRAF
- 2608 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
this is your point that i am disagreeing with - phythagorus is the greek i am referring too - the greek scales/modes are not the root of just western musicnuffink wrote:Again, you're confusing western music with music.amoebe wrote:It was discoverered, a long time ago, that the human mind likes some combinations of tones better than other. It is claimed Pythagoras did that discovery. It is discovered, about a year ago, that the human mind very much dislikes specific cords and note or tone progressions.
It is invented how to build music from those 'soothing' and sometimes not so 'soothing' cords and tone pogressions.
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- KVRAF
- 3508 posts since 27 Dec, 2002 from North East England
That's exactly what I'm saying. If that noise is designed to be heard aesthetically, it's music.Chase wrote:That's everyone's definition. It's where noise starts to become music that people vary on.cron wrote:I'd define music as sound which is designed to be heard aesthetically.vurt wrote:as my last sentence said,depends on how you define music