was music discovered or invented?

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I'd say in its own standards music stems from vibrations. Nature's full of it :wink:

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nope some plants in fact most do resonate at frequencys beyond our hearing
do they? anyway I'd call that noise

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for animals, I think its more of a hitting frequency they enjoy than a specific set of tones or a rhythm.. though I could be wrong.. its just a guess kind of like a dog whistle..
birds do sing melodies.. as a message/ID to other birds I guess

it's both a set of tones and a rhythm

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gol wrote:
nope some plants in fact most do resonate at frequencys beyond our hearing
do they? anyway I'd call that noise
like you know anything about the subject :hihi:
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gol wrote:
nope some plants in fact most do resonate at frequencys beyond our hearing
do they? anyway I'd call that noise

as my last sentence said,depends on how you define music :wink:

im open monded enough to consider most tings musical,you show me a synthesiser with the range Gaia has of sounds let alone ways of surprising me musically on a daily basis 8)
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ericj23 wrote: the rest of the post regarding the greek "discovery" of scales used throughout the world is so obvious and is such a clear rebuttal of your earlier statement regarding the fundaments of western music that i will just assume that you didn't comment on that in order to make yourself feel better
eric,

I'm obviously missing something here. If you could point out what statement of mine you're rebutting and how you're rebutting it I'll try a counter rebuttal (buttal?). As it is I'm just confused.

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Music was not discovered or invented....come on guys, we're involved in the continuous creation of it!! It started from imitating natural rhythms and sounds and developed throughout from then on, the western world invented equal temperment!!

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Music was not discovered or invented....come on guys, we're involved in the continuous creation of it!! It started from imitating natural rhythms and sounds and developed throughout from then on, the western world invented equal temperment!!

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pheeleep wrote:I think that an appreciation of the sounds nature provides inspired people to make music themselves and create instruments.. to make melodies... imitate what nature was producing ( birds singing for example )

As far as rythm is concerned, I don't know.. someone started banging on something and thought it sounded cool?

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I think that the banging came before the melodies for the same reason babies bang on things along to music before they learn to sing. As man was more primitive, he just banged on shit; then the concepts of melody came to man as he developed.

But I'm nowhere near an expert :wink:
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for animals, I think its more of a hitting frequency they enjoy than a specific set of tones or a rhythm.. though I could be wrong.. its just a guess

I think it's just because they want to get laid. if they don't sing, they don't get some..
Play it by ear

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Also, I think in animals as undeveloped and intelligent as birds, their "singing" is purely communication.

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vurt wrote:as my last sentence said,depends on how you define music :wink:
I'd define music as sound which is designed to be heard aesthetically.

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cron wrote:
vurt wrote:as my last sentence said,depends on how you define music :wink:
I'd define music as sound which is designed to be heard aesthetically.
That's everyone's definition. It's where noise starts to become music that people vary on.

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nuffink wrote:
amoebe wrote:It was discoverered, a long time ago, that the human mind likes some combinations of tones better than other. It is claimed Pythagoras did that discovery. It is discovered, about a year ago, that the human mind very much dislikes specific cords and note or tone progressions.
It is invented how to build music from those 'soothing' and sometimes not so 'soothing' cords and tone pogressions.
Again, you're confusing western music with music.
this is your point that i am disagreeing with - phythagorus is the greek i am referring too - the greek scales/modes are not the root of just western music

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Chase wrote:
cron wrote:
vurt wrote:as my last sentence said,depends on how you define music :wink:
I'd define music as sound which is designed to be heard aesthetically.
That's everyone's definition. It's where noise starts to become music that people vary on.
That's exactly what I'm saying. If that noise is designed to be heard aesthetically, it's music.

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