So if someone without a license for CV-1 bought the upgrade to CV-2, they would be entitled to using CV-2? Sure, buddy.whyterabbyt wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:35 pm The only point where they're not 'identical' is the cost so, erm, no.
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- KVRian
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- 35422 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Dont try and make out that that's anything I actually said, buddy. Since when did fraud entitle someone to ownership the way a legitimate purchase does? Are you going to claim that Im also saying that if someone pirated CV-2 they'd be entitled to use it? Dont make me laugh.Held wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:46 pmSo if someone without a license for CV-1 bought the upgrade to CV-2, they would be entitled to using CV-2? Sure, buddy.whyterabbyt wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:35 pm The only point where they're not 'identical' is the cost so, erm, no.
A response like that seems to come from a determination to find any way to be 'right' in the argument, rather than any normal concern about a legitimate upgrade, its price, or what you actually get.
But you go ahead, you tell me how the specifics of how the legitimately upgraded version of the CV-2 product differs from the legitimately purchased full version.
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- KVRist
- 208 posts since 5 Jul, 2004
I asked for it and AAS responded so I have a licence for CV-2 now to make the wait for CV-3 sweeter. Good product and good customer service, no complaints for my part.
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- KVRian
- 1492 posts since 7 Jun, 2021
he just might have mixpuzzled some wording.whyterabbyt wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:03 pmDont try and make out that that's anything I actually said, buddy. Since when did fraud entitle someone to ownership the way a legitimate purchase does? Are you going to claim that Im also saying that if someone pirated CV-2 they'd be entitled to use it? Dont make me laugh.Held wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:46 pmSo if someone without a license for CV-1 bought the upgrade to CV-2, they would be entitled to using CV-2? Sure, buddy.whyterabbyt wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:35 pm The only point where they're not 'identical' is the cost so, erm, no.
I never owned CV-1 myself, but was able to "upgrade" to CV-2 for sayed $39.
Just: it´s labeled "crossgrade".
I would guess @Held is coming from there too.
I was also very hesitant at first too, after i saw the object delay "upgrade to CV-2"offer.
I also read "crossgrade" as "upgrade" btw. . Yeah, AAS is good Men from what i can tell.
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- KVRian
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On the one hand you saywhyterabbyt wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:03 pm Dont try and make out that that's anything I actually said, buddy. Since when did fraud entitle someone to ownership the way a legitimate purchase does? Are you going to claim that Im also saying that if someone pirated CV-2 they'd be entitled to use it? Dont make me laugh.
but when someone tries to use the identical licenses in an identical manner, you start talking about fraud? You seem to have an unusual definition of 'identical'. Could you please explain, what 'identical' means to you? Or not. It doesn't really matter what you think. The only thing that matters is what AAS says.whyterabbyt wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:35 pm The only point where they're not 'identical' is the cost so, erm, no.
I'm guessing they'll say the upgrade is included, but I'll wait for their response.
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- 35422 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
No, that was you, remember? You posited the scenario of a fraudulent upgrade.Held wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:43 pm but when someone tries to use the identical licenses in an identical manner, you start talking about fraud?
Held wrote:So if someone without a license for CV-1 bought the upgrade to CV-2, they would be entitled to using CV-2?
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- 35422 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Nope, if it was just confusion he wouldnt be so aggressive about it.
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- 35422 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
It would definitely appear so, yes.Gamma-UT wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:01 pm Jeez, do people seriously have to write "legitimately upgraded" just to make a simple point?
absolutely.FFS.
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- 35422 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
You need it explained as to how the software you'd get from an upgrade might be identical to the software you'd get if you bought it as a new license?
Gee, that's beyond me, I guess you insist they must have different versions of the software depending on how you buy it. So if its not identical, what's specifically different, as I asked earlier? You seem not to have responded to that, here's your chance.
I wrote:you tell me how the specifics of how the legitimately upgraded version of the CV-2 product differs from the legitimately purchased full version.
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I also got a reply from AAS in which they clarified that each purchase of CV-2 after November 15 2024 will be upgraded to CV-3 free of charge, which of course includes the CV-2 upgrade/crossgrade incl. the "bits and pieces" sound pack with separate installer, one can see on the offers page in the account.
The to be released version of CV-3 installer will include the "bits and pieces" (but not as a separate installer).
So everyone with a CV-2 purchase after November 15, 2024 will get the CV-3 version.
The to be released version of CV-3 installer will include the "bits and pieces" (but not as a separate installer).
So everyone with a CV-2 purchase after November 15, 2024 will get the CV-3 version.
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- KVRian
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That's great. Thanks for letting us knowGGaudio7 wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:53 pm I also got a reply from AAS in which they clarified that each purchase of CV-2 after November 15 2024 will be upgraded to CV-3 free of charge, which of course includes the CV-2 upgrade/crossgrade incl. the "bits and pieces" sound pack with separate installer, one can see on the offers page in the account.
The to be released version of CV-3 installer will include the "bits and pieces" (but not as a separate installer).
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That's the missing piece of the picture. Thank you for filling it in.GGaudio7 wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:53 pm The to be released version of CV-3 installer will include the "bits and pieces" (but not as a separate installer).
I am going to place my order now.
