What vst sounds closest to the Virus TI?

[jens]

That's not going to be an option then.

So you're not even willing to quickly register on their website in order to download the firmware (you could un-register immediately after that) but you feel comfortable getting on our nerves here in this thread instead?




I'm out.

[jens]

I'm convinced people go to DSP56k threads solely to clutch their pearls at firmware "piracy" and ensure that we're all aware of their moral superiority.

No one cares if you don't want to use the emulations.

Yeah, that might well be the case indeed.

[ghostwhistler]

how? I can't see a link for firmware and signing up seems to require I provide a serial number. I don't own the hardware

Just click on "I don't own any Access-hardware" (or something along these lines).

Do you have a link? I can't find that

You must be registered

Thanks for clairfying. That's not going to be an option then. Shame, would have liked to try out this vst.

The firmware has been archived here so it doesn't disappear

https://archive.org/details/firmware_20240515

Thanks

[ghostwhistler]

That's not going to be an option then.

So you're not even willing to quickly register on their website in order to download the firmware (you could un-register immediately after that) but you feel comfortable getting on our nerves here in this thread instead?




I'm out.

I thought i explained: you need to provide a serial number to register an account. I don't have the hardware. If I did this thread would not exist

[El°HYM]

Not to play "devil's advocate" BUT......a hardware synth is more than just a cpu chip running DSP. Things like DA converters can play a role in the actual sound. Even in hardware synths from the same company that can share sysex patches. For instance, to my ears, A Yamaha DX21 sounds a bit smoother than a TX81Z which, (again to my ears), sounds a bit more raw and gritty. I prefer the TX81Z for that reason. I also find the same holds true for VSTi's like FM8 DiscoDSP phantom which can import those same 4op FM sysex patches. And it's why I still own a TX81Z.

But hey, that's just me......YMMV.

That was true for 1980s Synths that used bespoke DACs and low bit depth and sample rates like the TX81Z, but once we hit the late 1990s they used off the shelf DACs and 16 Bit 44.k or better converters they got from the HiFi Stereo/CD/DVD market and they were very clean and transparent

You never hear anyone say anything about the DAC in the Panasonic DVD player sounding any different than the one in the Sony DVD player

The Access Virus line used all off the shelf components right down the to the Motorola CPU

It's literally just a computer running code that outputs digital audio that then gets converted by a clean and transparent DAC

It's because of this fact that the emulators work just by running the firmware and a GUI that emulates the control surface of the hardware

Samplers from the era used different data compression schemes which can have an impact on sound but if you were to run their firmware in an emulator you would also be running that data compression scheme

Well, quite debatable. Most people who own those machines will tell you something slightly different.
https://gearspace.com/board/electronic- ... sound.html

[ghostwhistler]

DUNE

...desert planet....

I don't have the Solari for it, which is a shame because I really like it. Synapse do good products.

[crimsonwarlock]

Not a VST but a Reason Rack Extension, but basically going from the name, I think that Synapse's Antidote is meant to be close to the Virus sound.

[ghostwhistler]

Is there anything the Viper vst can do that this OsTIrus vst can't? They both seem modelled on the same thing and I am not familiar with the hardware at all. It doesn't seem terrible complicated though although the latter is a bit quiet and doesn't seem as punchy as something like DIVA (i'm sure that someone will tell me that's a poor comparison, which is fine)

[vanerio]

Is there anything the Viper vst can do that this OsTIrus vst can't? They both seem modelled on the same thing and I am not familiar with the hardware at all. It doesn't seem terrible complicated though although the latter is a bit quiet and doesn't seem as punchy as something like DIVA (i'm sure that someone will tell me that's a poor comparison, which is fine)

importing waveforms and wavetables for example

[jens]

That's not going to be an option then.

So you're not even willing to quickly register on their website in order to download the firmware (you could un-register immediately after that) but you feel comfortable getting on our nerves here in this thread instead?




I'm out.

I thought i explained: you need to provide a serial number to register an account. I don't have the hardware. If I did this thread would not exist

We are going in circles here. I explained to you in clear words, that there is an option to register without owning hardware.

[Gam456]

Is there anything the Viper vst can do that this OsTIrus vst can't? They both seem modelled on the same thing and I am not familiar with the hardware at all. It doesn't seem terrible complicated though although the latter is a bit quiet and doesn't seem as punchy as something like DIVA (i'm sure that someone will tell me that's a poor comparison, which is fine)

Viper is not a 100% accurate. Viper have a shimmer, not the Virus. Vipe still miss a couple of OSC, source on the mod matrix

Ostirus is NOT modelled, you are playing the real Virus

[ghostwhistler]

Is there anything the Viper vst can do that this OsTIrus vst can't? They both seem modelled on the same thing and I am not familiar with the hardware at all. It doesn't seem terrible complicated though although the latter is a bit quiet and doesn't seem as punchy as something like DIVA (i'm sure that someone will tell me that's a poor comparison, which is fine)

Viper is not a 100% accurate. Viper have a shimmer, not the Virus. Vipe still miss a couple of OSC, source on the mod matrix

Ostirus is NOT modelled, you are playing the real Virus

I bet Access are happy about this vst then!

Presumably, if you have the firmware legally (ofc) and up to date this VST would sound even better.

[adamszabo]

Presumably, if you have the firmware legally (ofc) and up to date this VST would sound even better.

As others said, there is some difference between Viper and the Virus, but in the grand scheme of things it doesnt matter, 90 plus % of patches will sound almost identical.
Here are two videos, one where I compare Viper to the Virus, and one where I import Virus patches. Feel free to judge the sound for yourself, and if its close to the Virus or not

[seafire]

Ostirus is NOT modelled, you are playing the real Virus

Minus the DAC

[Gam456]

Is there anything the Viper vst can do that this OsTIrus vst can't? They both seem modelled on the same thing and I am not familiar with the hardware at all. It doesn't seem terrible complicated though although the latter is a bit quiet and doesn't seem as punchy as something like DIVA (i'm sure that someone will tell me that's a poor comparison, which is fine)

Viper is not a 100% accurate. Viper have a shimmer, not the Virus. Vipe still miss a couple of OSC, source on the mod matrix

Ostirus is NOT modelled, you are playing the real Virus

I bet Access are happy about this vst then!

Presumably, if you have the firmware legally (ofc) and up to date this VST would sound even better.

Ostirus have the same bugs and issue than the hardware