Click - How do I monitor click, while playing drums live? Turning up monitor creates a delay

[RussKroeker]

If I turn up the monitor on my Behringer I/O device to hear the click, I get the delayed audio with it, making it impossible to play. Is there a work around? I assume recording a "click Track" will just create the same issue (having to turn up the input monitor to hear it)
Thanks, I'm desperate (and very new to all this)

[Peter Widdicombe]

Platform and what is the click playing through? Windows audio, for instance, may have some inherent latency; using ASIO drivers tend to work better.

[RussKroeker]

So here's what I'm trying to do. I'm using a New Windows HP computer with plenty of ram w/ Traction Waveform. I have an 8 input Behringer Uphoria 1820UMC I/O. I'm running 8 mics to a drum set trying to lay down some tracks. When I start the click in Traction, it is monitored through my headphone jack on 1820 . I can only hear it if I turn up the monitor return, which mixes between live audio and the return from the computer. The delay is massive, so I keep it off (so no click). I've tried every setting using the user guide to combat latency.

[pough]

It might help to tell us what your latency actually is. You say the delay is massive, but that could be because you're more sensitive to timing issues OR because your hardware can't keep up OR because some settings could be better OR... We have no way of knowing without you telling us.

Settings -> Audio Devices should say the audio buffer size in both samples and milliseconds. I usually have mine at 5.8ms, which is good enough for me.

Some plugins will also add latency. For recording, I would recommend that you keep them to a minimum and disable any that add a lot. The CPU Usage window (top right, dotted circle with number in the middle) shows latency per plugin.

[RussKroeker]

Well, I'm not sure exactly how to quantify latency that i hear...but I'm hearing a delay like a long slap-back similar to a tunnel reverb. To the point that I can't even play when the monitor return is up. I'm not using any plugins. I'm using the Traction recommended optimum buffer size. (4.8ms I think). I've also used the troubleshooting they give in the manual to "fix" any additional by running input to output on a channel and having it self-diagnose the latency and reset Traction to make up for it....

[dysjoint]

Sounds a bit like loopback rather than latency. 4.8 ms is negligible.

[RussKroeker]

I agree. Any suggestions? I'm thinking about just playing my Iphone metronome through my last open channel so I have something to play with, then record it live for later when I have friends come and ad tracks...

[pough]

Are you doing hardware and software monitoring at the same time? That is, are you listening to your own drumming via the hardware interface and also setting Waveform to live input monitoring of its inputs? If so, I would recommend using only one or the other.

[RussKroeker]

The way I was directed to in the User Guide was to use the actual knob on my hardware interface; hence the issue I'm dealing with. the headphone jack is on the hardware interface. It will give me either my live signal, return from the computer, or a mix of both. The Waveform click is generated on the computer, so I'd have to turn the knob toward software monitoring to even hear the click, but that creates the slap back delay...

[pough]

The Waveform click is generated on the computer, so I'd have to turn the knob toward software monitoring to even hear the click, but that creates the slap back delay...

I don't think we're communicating effectively. Pictures sometimes work better.

Step 0, as always, is to open up the Controls Panel at the bottom so that all the useful things are visible. (There are actually multiple places where this can be set, but I always point out the Controls Panel because it probably answers a billion questions people often have.)

[RussKroeker]

I think it works correctly now! I think in the past when I was figuring out the Behringer I must have turned it back on, or maybe when I started the new session. Long story short... I can work with this! Thanks a lot