Tracktion can import files from the HDR, and it can export them to the HDR, right?
Could one use Tracktion to record thier scratch tracks at home, export to the HDR, use the Pro Tools gizmo to make a Pro Tools EDL file/drive, and finish thier project in a "real" (read Pro Tool equiped)studio with bitchen mics and stuff?
Tracktion+HDR
-
- KVRAF
- 1600 posts since 1 Apr, 2003 from Seattle, WA
The upcoming Tracktion 2 (not 1) can import projects from the HDR/MDR/SDR. Exporting is a lot harder to implement but it is on our radar depending on the response we get from HDR/MDR/SDR users. The import converts all 24 tracks to a Tracktion project using the original wave files (simply make a new project, copy the project folder from your xDR drive, open the edit, and choose .prj import). All audio edits (but no fades) are converted as well as audio file names and track names. Then start editing/mixing/effecting in tracktion as you would any other Tracktion edit.
I hope this helps clarify things. Let me know if you have any more questions.
Ben
I hope this helps clarify things. Let me know if you have any more questions.
Ben
-
- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
i think this will be a fetcher in tracktion 2 so u will have to wait for the release with the rest of us ground hogs 
this is the posted info on the hdr import to be added with the upgrade wen it comes out dosent seem to have any mention on exporting thoughImport HDR files:
Users of the Mackie HDR, MDR and SDR hard disk recorders can now import their project files directly into Tracktion 2, complete with all audio and edits intact. Track those rowdy musicians at the club to your hard disk recorder, then quickly transfer to your laptop and toss it in the van. When the bass player finally passes out, set your laptop on his head and mix on the way to the next gig.
-
- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
joking -
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 195 posts since 31 Dec, 2004
Wow, what service!
Thanks guys. If and when, export becomes avilable, then I suppose what i suggested would be possible. It would be cool if there was some way to bridge the "gap" between being able to create on your own time, and paying through the nose for acsses to high end gear.
I like cake, and I want to eat it too
Thanks guys. If and when, export becomes avilable, then I suppose what i suggested would be possible. It would be cool if there was some way to bridge the "gap" between being able to create on your own time, and paying through the nose for acsses to high end gear.
I like cake, and I want to eat it too
-
- KVRian
- 1443 posts since 27 Dec, 2003
May I ask a question about exporting to/from SDR/MDR/HDR recorders?
My friend has an MDR recorder. He has an all hardware studio. I have been trying to help him incorporate a sequencer and plugins into his workflow. I've been able to sort out how to get the FTP server going, and we can pull the files off the MDR with no problem. Is it possible now to export them back to (import into) the MDR at all? We can get the files there, but not in any format that the MDR seems to recognize.
Some scenarios that would great if doable:
FTP files to DAW. Edit as desired meeting any requirements like not changing the length (if necessary).
Then:
1) FTP back to the same project directories
2) Save the edited files in an expected directory structure and have the MDR recognize the new project
3) Create a new, empty project on the MDR and then create the files by copying from the DAW to flesh out the project
then mix and master from the MDR. It would also be cool to just be able to back the project up to the DAW hard drive and come back to it later, freeing up HD space on the MDR.
Can anyone help me determine if this is doable, or point me to the doc/thread that might describe it? I know there is an aftermarket FireWire dock, but that doesn't change this issue, I don't think.
Thanks.
My friend has an MDR recorder. He has an all hardware studio. I have been trying to help him incorporate a sequencer and plugins into his workflow. I've been able to sort out how to get the FTP server going, and we can pull the files off the MDR with no problem. Is it possible now to export them back to (import into) the MDR at all? We can get the files there, but not in any format that the MDR seems to recognize.
Some scenarios that would great if doable:
FTP files to DAW. Edit as desired meeting any requirements like not changing the length (if necessary).
Then:
1) FTP back to the same project directories
2) Save the edited files in an expected directory structure and have the MDR recognize the new project
3) Create a new, empty project on the MDR and then create the files by copying from the DAW to flesh out the project
then mix and master from the MDR. It would also be cool to just be able to back the project up to the DAW hard drive and come back to it later, freeing up HD space on the MDR.
Can anyone help me determine if this is doable, or point me to the doc/thread that might describe it? I know there is an aftermarket FireWire dock, but that doesn't change this issue, I don't think.
Thanks.
Regards, Mike
-
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 195 posts since 31 Dec, 2004
So the ansewer to you question, mn, is no for the time being. This is from the source so, we shall have to wait and see if it becomes a reality.Beno wrote:The upcoming Tracktion 2 (not 1) can import projects from the HDR/MDR/SDR. Exporting is a lot harder to implement but it is on our radar depending on the response we get from HDR/MDR/SDR users.
-
- KVRian
- 1443 posts since 27 Dec, 2003
Thanks, I wasn't sure if he meant T2 only or not. I must admit it is quite disappointing, I'm a bit dumbstruck that popular demand hasn't forced it by now. It's got to come down to the ".hdr" files in the project root, I think. I replicated everything else in the structure of a project and used untouched WAV files from another project. Please, Mackie give us a way to import into the recorders that isn't Tracktion specific, although if that's what it took he would buy it.
All my buddy really wants is to be able silence intros, etc prior to using compression and to use Audition or similar to surgically correct the odd thing before returning to the Mackie to mix and master. His mixer doesn't have automation so whatever he can do up front helps. He also doesn't have a multitrack audio card - I suppose that would allow just re-recording to the Mackie, but what a PITA.
Thanks, sorry to thread hijack.
All my buddy really wants is to be able silence intros, etc prior to using compression and to use Audition or similar to surgically correct the odd thing before returning to the Mackie to mix and master. His mixer doesn't have automation so whatever he can do up front helps. He also doesn't have a multitrack audio card - I suppose that would allow just re-recording to the Mackie, but what a PITA.
Thanks, sorry to thread hijack.
Last edited by mn on Mon Jan 10, 2005 1:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Regards, Mike
-
- KVRAF
- 1600 posts since 1 Apr, 2003 from Seattle, WA
Hey Mike,
First off, if your friend's HDR saves .hdr files than he has an old version of the OS. The file structure was updated a while ago and it uses a file called .prj as the project file. So have him upgrade. Go here:
http://www.mackie.com/products/mdr2496/ ... loads.html
Also, while not as convenient as the .prj import command, there is a pretty straight forward way to get for files back into the MDR for mixing using T2.
Here's the method overview. I don't have time right now to go into the detailed button pushes (I've got exams this week) but this should give you the gist of it:
1. Copy project via FTP or some other method to your computer.
2. Make a new Project in Tracktion2 and import your .prj file.
3. Perform all the edits you want in T2.
4. When finished editing Export the tracks as a single mono wave file for each track all starting at the same time. There is a new command in T2 render options that let's you do this isn one button click!!!
5. Copy these files back to a new MDR project.
Now step 5 is where the trick comes in. It's been a while since I've done this but I think I've got it straight. MDR has no file, import so you need to trick it to import the 24 new tracks. This is done by making an MDR project and recording for a few seconds on each Track. This creates 24 wave files in the MDR, one fore each track, that all start at the same time. Replace these 24 place holder files with the 24 files from tracktion. Make sure the names match exactly. Now when you open the project on the MDR, the new wav files you made in tracktion from your original project will play, all starting at the same point as desired. Mix away in hardware. It may sound convoluted but it is actually quite easy. I can give you more detailed help down the road when you need it. And this is always a good place for help:
http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ ... =forum&f=2
Let me know if you have any further questions.
Ben
First off, if your friend's HDR saves .hdr files than he has an old version of the OS. The file structure was updated a while ago and it uses a file called .prj as the project file. So have him upgrade. Go here:
http://www.mackie.com/products/mdr2496/ ... loads.html
Also, while not as convenient as the .prj import command, there is a pretty straight forward way to get for files back into the MDR for mixing using T2.
Here's the method overview. I don't have time right now to go into the detailed button pushes (I've got exams this week) but this should give you the gist of it:
1. Copy project via FTP or some other method to your computer.
2. Make a new Project in Tracktion2 and import your .prj file.
3. Perform all the edits you want in T2.
4. When finished editing Export the tracks as a single mono wave file for each track all starting at the same time. There is a new command in T2 render options that let's you do this isn one button click!!!
5. Copy these files back to a new MDR project.
Now step 5 is where the trick comes in. It's been a while since I've done this but I think I've got it straight. MDR has no file, import so you need to trick it to import the 24 new tracks. This is done by making an MDR project and recording for a few seconds on each Track. This creates 24 wave files in the MDR, one fore each track, that all start at the same time. Replace these 24 place holder files with the 24 files from tracktion. Make sure the names match exactly. Now when you open the project on the MDR, the new wav files you made in tracktion from your original project will play, all starting at the same point as desired. Mix away in hardware. It may sound convoluted but it is actually quite easy. I can give you more detailed help down the road when you need it. And this is always a good place for help:
http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ ... =forum&f=2
Let me know if you have any further questions.
Ben
-
- KVRian
- 1443 posts since 27 Dec, 2003
Thanks, Ben! That is pretty much the only thing we didn't try. We did create a dummy project on the MDR, but didn't actually start recording. I think I convinced myself that would be worse because then the MDR would know that the tracks were only 4 second each or whatever. In any case, I will look into getting him to upgrade his OS and I will try this out next time I go over to his studio. Appreciate your time in detailing this.
Regards, Mike