Plugin that does what the Digitech synth wah or Micro synth does?
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- KVRist
- 202 posts since 1 Aug, 2019
I havent come across any plugin that can pitch track a guitar accurately and then allow you to control a mono synth like in the Micro synth or Digitech synth wah
Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks
Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks
- KVRAF
- 18446 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
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- KVRAF
- 8563 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
No, right now hardware is the only way. I have some audio triggered synths but they need a lot of time configuring filters for input tracking.
Fretted synth has some but they're 15 stock lowpass filters and dont count on the high e string to even play.
It's an untouched market, unless you can put in time to build it, go hardware.
Fretted synth has some but they're 15 stock lowpass filters and dont count on the high e string to even play.
It's an untouched market, unless you can put in time to build it, go hardware.
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- KVRist
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- 202 posts since 1 Aug, 2019
Thanks yea it seems like something that doesn’t exist like how those pedals were able to do such a good job.RunBeerRun wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 2:22 pm No, right now hardware is the only way. I have some audio triggered synths but they need a lot of time configuring filters for input tracking.
Fretted synth has some but they're 15 stock lowpass filters and dont count on the high e string to even play.
It's an untouched market, unless you can put in time to build it, go hardware.
A computer should be able to handle that though right?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 202 posts since 1 Aug, 2019
Ha! That’s literally the only one I found That does it.
It seems easy to implement right?
- KVRAF
- 18446 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Yeah, generally pretty easy. The user interface isn't the most intuitive, but once you figure out what everything does, it's fairly simple. There was some bug in v2 when you try and host a plugin inside it, but I just route the outgoing MIDI to another track and it seems to work fine.JoeLowery215 wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:51 pmHa! That’s literally the only one I found That does it.
It seems easy to implement right?
Still, most of the time I just will play the line on a keyboard or my Rise 49. I got so frustrated with MIDI guitar solutions over the years that I just taught myself how to play. I'm not great, but I can get around OK.
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- KVRAF
- 2593 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Another Green World
I had a Digitech Synth Wah for about a week and traded it for a Bass Synth Wah (BSW), and have spent time with the EHX MicroSynth. The thing is - not all of the tones are actual "synth" in terms of triggering an oscillator, of course some like the classic Daft Punk tone are. The Digitech pedals had the best octaver tracking around when they were released, and have modes with lowpass, formant filters and (I believe) bit reduction, controlled by signal amplitude envelope. Similar with MicroSynth (octave up/down, square wave, modulated filter), IIRC there's a good version in NI Guitar Rig.
I'd certainly check out plugin versions, but you can get a lot of the classic sounds by combining a few basic effects.
Like others said, hardware pedals have the edge in realtime response on guitar and bass, especially for something like the bassline to Stevie Wonder's "Boogie On Reggae Woman".
I'd certainly check out plugin versions, but you can get a lot of the classic sounds by combining a few basic effects.
Like others said, hardware pedals have the edge in realtime response on guitar and bass, especially for something like the bassline to Stevie Wonder's "Boogie On Reggae Woman".
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 202 posts since 1 Aug, 2019
Awesome thank you. So what other plugins have this pitch tracking, micro synth sound? I know You mentioned Guitar Rig? Not just an octave down but more so something that triggers an osc ?Winstontaneous wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:25 am I had a Digitech Synth Wah for about a week and traded it for a Bass Synth Wah (BSW), and have spent time with the EHX MicroSynth. The thing is - not all of the tones are actual "synth" in terms of triggering an oscillator, of course some like the classic Daft Punk tone are. The Digitech pedals had the best octaver tracking around when they were released, and have modes with lowpass, formant filters and (I believe) bit reduction, controlled by signal amplitude envelope. Similar with MicroSynth (octave up/down, square wave, modulated filter), IIRC there's a good version in NI Guitar Rig.
I'd certainly check out plugin versions, but you can get a lot of the classic sounds by combining a few basic effects.
Like others said, hardware pedals have the edge in realtime response on guitar and bass, especially for something like the bassline to Stevie Wonder's "Boogie On Reggae Woman".
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- KVRAF
- 2593 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Another Green World
Guitar Rig 7 - Harmonic Synthesizer is the MicroSynth...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 202 posts since 1 Aug, 2019
Winstontaneous wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:35 am Guitar Rig 7 - Harmonic Synthesizer is the MicroSynth...
Thanks I think the issue is that the micro synth has a square wave but the Digitech synth wah is doing something different? I’m not sure exactly I’ll have to play with it
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- KVRAF
- 2593 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Another Green World
Yeah the Digitech has the formant talk-y stuff and likely some FM going on. I've found a few plugins over the years that reminded me of what it does but I forget what they are right now (I think NI FM8 effects version is one).
- KVRAF
- 9571 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
Doesn‘t the microsynth simply takes the input signal as oscillator? Clip it hard and you have a square waveform. Add a filter triggered by a gate. All that is easy to do analog. Pitch tracking requires digital algorithms…
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 202 posts since 1 Aug, 2019
I think it’s already a square wave. I’m not sure how it works though, I looked It up before but forget.Tj Shredder wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:12 am Doesn‘t the microsynth simply takes the input signal as oscillator? Clip it hard and you have a square waveform. Add a filter triggered by a gate. All that is easy to do analog. Pitch tracking requires digital algorithms…
- KVRAF
- 11380 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Neural DSP has the Rabea X amp which contains a cool mono synth. When I tried the demo it did track really well.
https://neuraldsp.com/plugins/archetype-rabea
Worth checking it out.
https://neuraldsp.com/plugins/archetype-rabea
Worth checking it out.
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