Vital - Released

[218]

Personally I have had major issues with the VST2 version hoggin´CPU to a point where its completely unusable. VST3 is a little better but still completely unacceptable. Especially when you compare Vital to its competitors:-/

Oh, then you probably haven't tried Phase Plant yet. One of the most CPU demanding modern soft synths I know (at least on my Intel Mac).

If unknown: In Vital, you can change the oversampling down to draft quality (at the advanced page). Just turn it up, before you render your track.

Somethin is not right then. It is very light on my side.

I also thought it was super light to begin with, but as it got updated it became increasingly unstable for me. I havent tried adjusting the downsampling but im on a newer i7 Thinkpad workstation with 48 GB RAM so it should not be necessary :-O

[fisherKing]

Just my concerns.

I bought Vital right away when it arrived.
And I found it very powerful synth with nice features. But I didn’t have time and energy back then to make music and so I didn’t have time to really use Vital or spend time learning it.

Now I am getting back to more music making and the situation with Vital doesn’t seem very promising… I think it would work ok right now without any updates from the DEV. But if I need to change to MAC (now on Win), or how well it will hold in the future if there’s no more updates… It just get me wondering: is there any point spending time with this synth if it’s future is unsure.

It just doesn’t feel so appealing to take Vital and focus on it when I have these concerns. Maybe I am overthinking?

i've been running vital on mac os since the plugin was first released; i run the OS betas, (with logic), and vital has worked without issue all along. i use it all the time, still into it

[Caine123]

what is concerning for me is that i bought presets for it and people still release preset packs for a product which seems to be abandoned/not supported by the dev, so if you got problems well thats it...
and how is activation handled? afaik if something happens you cannot activate it afaik...

It's not an activation, the login is to download presets and check for updates. Probably the text to wavetable feature is linked to it but I've never used that.

ahhh ok thx

[AlQuzMar]

Just to catch up on this all. Can someone post a list of the current bugs not yet addressed and what the general feature requests for its future are?

There's a bugs category at the official forum, although dumb people post a lot of support issues there too, and nobody cares about feature wishes any more as they're not coming anyway.

[AlQuzMar]

Just hope he comes back someday, and starts developing again.

As far as I remember, the developer confirmed he was still developing it.

Words are cheap, Vital's Pro tier is not.

[AlQuzMar]

Personally I have had major issues with the VST2 version hoggin´CPU to a point where its completely unusable. VST3 is a little better but still completely unacceptable. Especially when you compare Vital to its competitors:-/

Oh, then you probably haven't tried Phase Plant yet. One of the most CPU demanding modern soft synths I know (at least on my Intel Mac).

If unknown: In Vital, you can change the oversampling down to draft quality (at the advanced page). Just turn it up, before you render your track.

Vital at 2x oversampling eats roughly as much CPU time on my system as a heavy Phase Plant patch.

[Rastkovic]

Personally I have had major issues with the VST2 version hoggin´CPU to a point where its completely unusable. VST3 is a little better but still completely unacceptable. Especially when you compare Vital to its competitors:-/

Oh, then you probably haven't tried Phase Plant yet. One of the most CPU demanding modern soft synths I know (at least on my Intel Mac).

If unknown: In Vital, you can change the oversampling down to draft quality (at the advanced page). Just turn it up, before you render your track.

Vital at 2x oversampling eats roughly as much CPU time on my system as a heavy Phase Plant patch.

You are right, I tested it (just quick, with the Ableton Live cpu meter). But, the cpu usage goes completely nuts, when global unison is activated. I always use global unison.

On Vital, the cpu usage hits at the beginning of the chord the 17% very short, like a peak. It disappears, when 'Voice Override' on the advanced page is set to 'Steal', instead of 'Kill'.

Phase Plant - 8 voice patch - 11% cpu usage

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Phase Plant - 8 voice patch - x4 global unison - 45% cpu usage

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Vital - 8 voice patch - x2 oversampling - 13% cpu usage

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[Weasel-Boy]

As far as I remember, the developer confirmed he was still developing it.

He lied. Vital is abandonware. Too bad, this was a great bit of work, ruined by a bad business model.

[fisherKing]

As far as I remember, the developer confirmed he was still developing it.

He lied. Vital is abandonware. Too bad, this was a great bit of work, ruined by a bad business model.

i continue to use vital regularly, without issue (and on the latest mac OS betas). if it works, i'll use it, and if one day it doesn't... i'll use something else. just like any other plugin...

[Weasel-Boy]

i continue to use vital regularly, without issue (and on the latest mac OS betas). if it works, i'll use it, and if one day it doesn't... i'll use something else. just like any other plugin...

So do I.
I just wish Matt didn't give up on it, as I'm sure there could've been some pretty neat revisions for it.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

As far as I remember, the developer confirmed he was still developing it.

He lied. Vital is abandonware.

Proof!?

[Igro]

As far as I remember, the developer confirmed he was still developing it.

He lied. Vital is abandonware.

Proof!?

two years of silence

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

As far as I remember, the developer confirmed he was still developing it.

He lied. Vital is abandonware.

Proof!?

two years of silence

That neither proves the developer lied nor that Vital is abandonware.

[Igro]

As far as I remember, the developer confirmed he was still developing it.

He lied. Vital is abandonware.

Proof!?

two years of silence

That neither proves the developer lied nor that Vital is abandonware.

Ok. How many years of silence would be the proof then?

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

As far as I remember, the developer confirmed he was still developing it.

He lied. Vital is abandonware.

Proof!?

two years of silence

That neither proves the developer lied nor that Vital is abandonware.

Ok. How many years of silence would be the proof then?

Pretty sure he spoke of illness (his or his family?) and comfirmed Vital was stil being worked on. Also seemed clear that the dev is not the 'daily update on my progress' type, and perhaps resents the pressure to have to do so. I suspect that the majority of the user-base uses the free version. If that is the case, I can understand why they perhaps don't feel beholden to others' expectations.

Anyway, I could be wrong. Either way, if you want to prove that someone has lied then show evidence contradicting what they said. Extent of silence ain't that.