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I think you just got trolled haha

"Cubase 14 if presented back in 1999 would be worthless because nobody could run it unless they waited 25 years..." is a great line though, I have to admit I wish I came up with that one :lol:

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concealed identity wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:16 pm I think you just got trolled haha

"Cubase 14 if presented back in 1999 would be worthless because nobody could run it unless they waited 25 years..." is a great line though, I have to admit I wish I came up with that one :lol:
Hard to tell nowadays if trolling or people are really that thick heh.

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eLawnMust wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:19 pm What the hell is all the 'Gush' about? Maybe some features are cool but not at the expense of such stringent system requires... 8 GB RAM Minimum?!... for what, heating your home? This is 250 times the requires for Cubase VST24 back in 1999 where the minimum was 32 MB RAM...
Do you really want to compare a 26 years old software ?
You should look after Pro-24 on Atari :hyper:

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eLawnMust wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:19 pm What the hell is all the 'Gush' about? Maybe some features are cool but not at the expense of such stringent system requires... 8 GB RAM Minimum?!... for what, heating your home? This is 250 times the requires for Cubase VST24 back in 1999 where the minimum was 32 MB RAM...

Cubase ain't got better it's just taking advantage of more powerful machines in a bad way... Cubase 14 if presented back in 1999 would be worthless because nobody could run it unless they waited 25 years...

We aren't even talking the other requires like machine speed, graphics drivers, etc...

Reaper is proof that modern DAW can be fulla features yet still tight....

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Are you trolling or... ?

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mothra wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:41 pm
paramita123 wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:53 pm Indeed but as someone who does not use Score nor the pattern editor, this is only a small maintenance update. It does not fix many of the 100+ requests made on the Steinberg forum.
But it's a step forward for what is anyways an exceptional DAW.
And those 100+ requests, only get looked at if people are providing proper information along with crash dumps so the devs can look into it. Half the posts there complaining about this and that, never even bother opening support tickets, they think that forum is an 'official' support forum and get mad when Steinberg reps don't show up. We're lucky, occasionally the devs get some time to come play around and will chime in, but that board is for user support, it's not the official support channel.
You are right about this part but FYI I submitted precise and fair requests :
- Arturia Minilab remote script issue
- Cubase stupid zoom behaviour issue giving priority to the left of the screen upon double stop return
- Cubase drum maps issues
Both were acknowledged months ago but still not solved.
I maintain a good attitude on the forum with Martin, Paul, Johnny etc but it's a bit frustrating to see Dom excited about a tool nobody asked for and still have to wait for fixes for important issues for my work.

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...because Reaper. That surprised me, because TBH I thought all those kind of people had already died off with fentanyl OD when they couldn't cope with the pace of modern life or do more than one thing at the same time. But who am I to judge? A young Gen X-er told me the other day that Birkenstocks are the next big thing to supercede Crocs. But Birkenstocks are now dead posh and cost a fortune as Vuitton bought them out. There's a posh version of Crocs, and Gen Zs are turning into aged hippies, who knew? Fentanyl's a good thing...not so much of an analgesic as a detergent - a bleach for the gene pool, if you will. Modern life...so complicated.

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Sorry, I don’t want to trigger the KVR Audio reflex; let’s write something nice and personal :D I just want to finally remember its name. "PinchBar" is a free macOS tool that adds continuous pinch-to-zoom to various apps and is custom-made for Cubase with features often requested on the official forum

https://github.com/pnoqable/PinchBar

so PinchBar ... :dog:
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"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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paramita123 wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:27 pm - Cubase stupid zoom behaviour issue giving priority to the left of the screen upon double stop return
sounds like you haven't deselected this default preference:
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jancivil wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:58 am
paramita123 wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:27 pm - Cubase stupid zoom behaviour issue giving priority to the left of the screen upon double stop return
sounds like you haven't deselected this default preference:
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I'm afraid it makes no difference to the issue.
Just to be clear if fairly zoomed in and playing until the screen moves (follow on) then press zero twice to return to play start position, the screen does move back, but to a stupid position where the playhead is 90% to the right. It is stupid because upon playing again the screen will quickly "flip" to the right. Everyone knows time flows in that one direction. But Steinberg engineers didn't code this properly and it's been reported for quite a while.

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Oh, that bit. That has always worked like that. I use F a lot to toggle continuous vs not.

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eLawnMust wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:19 pm What the hell is all the 'Gush' about? Maybe some features are cool but not at the expense of such stringent system requires... 8 GB RAM Minimum?!... for what, heating your home? This is 250 times the requires for Cubase VST24 back in 1999 where the minimum was 32 MB RAM...

Cubase ain't got better it's just taking advantage of more powerful machines in a bad way... Cubase 14 if presented back in 1999 would be worthless because nobody could run it unless they waited 25 years...

We aren't even talking the other requires like machine speed, graphics drivers, etc...

Reaper is proof that modern DAW can be fulla features yet still tight....

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On my system, Cubase with an empty project uses ~397 MB RAM while Reaper uses ~385 MB.
The higher requirements are because plugins are much heavier these days due to the large amounts of sample content, much more complex DSP processing as well as high-resolution GUI's. If you just use Cubase as a simple hard disk recorder it's actually not very resource intensive at all.
Take a single oscillator, producing a drone. Send it to the wave shaper, altering the tone.
This can be a triangle, Sawtooth or a square. Modulate the pulse width, nobody will care

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I'd like to point out that this is the first version*Cubase 14.0.20 where FreesStyle (FL-like Patcher, with LFOs, macros, snapshots and morphing) in BlueCat Patcher doesn't crash Cubase—applause is well deserved! (mac M1)

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xbitz wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:26 pm I'd like to point out that this is the first version*Cubase 14.0.20 where FreesStyle (FL-like Patcher, with LFOs, macros, snapshots and morphing) in BlueCat Patcher doesn't crash Cubase—applause is well deserved! (mac M1)

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Happy for you ! Stability is paramount !! :tu:
I would rather have zero new feature but a total rock-solid well-optimized Cubase.

Also freestyle looks fun, you must be able to make mega-patches.
I personally wouldn't spend the $100 on it, but I do similar things with Waves StudioRack which is also an awesome piece of software and which is free :hyper:
Now waiting for 14.0.30 for the fixes that have not been addressed!

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paramita123 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:45 pm
xbitz wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:26 pm I'd like to point out that this is the first version*Cubase 14.0.20 where FreesStyle (FL-like Patcher, with LFOs, macros, snapshots and morphing) in BlueCat Patcher doesn't crash Cubase—applause is well deserved! (mac M1)

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( https://www.kvraudio.com/product/freest ... sonic-arts )
Happy for you ! Stability is paramount !! :tu:
I would rather have zero new feature but a total rock-solid well-optimized Cubase.

Also freestyle looks fun, you must be able to make mega-patches.
I personally wouldn't spend the $100 on it, but I do similar things with Waves StudioRack which is also an awesome piece of software and which is free :hyper:
Now waiting for 14.0.30 for the fixes that have not been addressed!
sure sure ...but ... StudioRack, which lacks MIDI routing between VSTs and also need Patchwork, crashes Cubase, and on top of that, the VST plugin cache also gets deleted.

and..FreeStyle needs Patchwork because, without it, you have to give focus back to Cubase for the space key to control the transporter—because why would anything be simple? :D (... Patchwork on its own is still a bit dumb. )

ps. I also use StudioVerse for effects.
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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mothra wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:21 pm Yeah brilliant, let's compare a piece of Windows 95/98 software to something 26-27 years later down the road. Don't like it, don't buy it, plain and simple.

Reaper might be 'light' but you'll still need the same type of horsepower if you actually use it.
Not so, BTW for the other guy Cubase 3.70 uses 29 MB RAM & current Reaper only 70 MB open project...

I guess you are not understanding... I CAN use older stuff that is very good on resources & I can actually create music that I could fool most everyone I made it in Cubase 14... First there's no way I could do that by using this-
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But wait, OLD Cubase 3.70 can easily run these 4, the only problem encountered was Serum must have GUI closed as it makes Cubase go wonky with it open... Do you think that it sounds like shit? Nope, sounds as good as you can get going in anything nowadays, maybe even better... So I tell you I could do any kinda tune in it & most all would BUY that it was done in current... In XP with 4 GB RAM it runs like a stallion... I rest my case>>>

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Big Clue - It's NOT the DAW that dictates the sound old or new it's what you can RUN INSIDE IT!...Case closed>>>

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