MSF Chorus in Generator Section Causes Clicks

[Held]

I've added the chorus module in my generator section, and it adds an audible click at the beginning of each note. This is especially noticeable with low notes. Try playing C1 with the code below.

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[vanerio]

I've added the chorus module in my generator section, and it adds an audible click at the beginning of each note. This is especially noticeable with low notes. Try playing C1 with the code below.

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Yeah! I can confirm. The problem seems to be that Delay parameter is not only delaying the signal but also applying something like an amplitud modulation, that fastly mutes the delayed signal according to the input signal, with not enough smoothing.

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[MeldaProduction]

It's simple - the first channel has the fadein from the global ADSR . Just use the chorus in FX section.

[Held]

It's simple - the first channel has the fadein from the global ADSR . Just use the chorus in FX section.

Sounds like it's impossible to implement the chorus module properly in the per voice section.

[jmg8]

You can use an envelope in the Generator to smooth the click.

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Thanks for that patch. Now I finally understand what is happening. The oscillator gets turned on instantaneously which produces a click. That normally gets smoothed out by the global envelope, but the chorus delays it and makes it audible.
So we need an additional envelope in the generator to remove the click before it enters the chorus.

Makes sense.

Edit: I think a good way to smooth the click would be an VolPan module with a short attack modulator. So you don't have to worry about the release of the envelope and stuff.

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A global de-click setting could be nice as well.