Software Hoarding

[SebAV]

True (according to several interviews, and late stories such as https://www.facebook.com/synthspotting/ ... 108383160/)

[SebAV]

No kr55 on Equinoxe (used on Chants magnétiques)

And yet the CD plainly states it was

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You’re right but the CD sleeve is wrong. It’s one of the faulty re-editions.
Originals can be found on the web (https://www.discogs.com/master/49172-Je ... e-Equinoxe). Anyway the kr55 was released in 79 while Équinoxe have been done the 1st half of 78.

I have the original pressing on vinyl there is no gear list on the original, that didn't come to the 2nd CD release

And you are ignoring the reality that big name artists like JMJ would get pre-release gear ahead of the general release. Do you think the KR55 just appeared one day with no product development cycle? That Korg designed it in a day, manufactured it in a day, and then it was magically in shops?

Yes the KR55 was available in shops to regular consumers in early 1979 but had been in development for quite some time

Giving pre production units to famous musicians in the 1970s to use on records was like synth manufacturers giving preproduction units to social media influencers in 2025

It also provided valuable feedback to engineers to have working musicians beta test new hardware

Perhaps, but not the case here. At the time JMJ was not endorsing brands or models. Other instrument, other album, you can find an interview about the Zoolook album where he says he couldn’t use the Emulator 2 because it was released after his recordings of the album.

[IvyBirds]

I have the original pressing on vinyl there is no gear list on the original, that didn't come to the 2nd CD release

I have the original LP release, bought it around the time it came out, and there is definitely a gear list on the back of the sleeve. And there is no mention of the KR-55 (it lists the Rhythmi-computer).


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In my pressing that I got upon release there is no gear list. In any case the record came out before the product officially launched why would a product that didn't officially exist, might never come to market and might not even have a name be listed? That would make no sense

If a Synth Influencer today has a prototype synth and they use it on a released track are they going to break the NDA and talk about it

As a result the prototype wasn't listed on your gear list, but it was on later releases after the product launch when it had an actual name and people knew what it meant

[IvyBirds]

No kr55 on Equinoxe (used on Chants magnétiques)

And yet the CD plainly states it was

Screenshot_20250406-164525.jpg

You’re right but the CD sleeve is wrong. It’s one of the faulty re-editions.
Originals can be found on the web (https://www.discogs.com/master/49172-Je ... e-Equinoxe). Anyway the kr55 was released in 79 while Équinoxe have been done the 1st half of 78.

I have the original pressing on vinyl there is no gear list on the original, that didn't come to the 2nd CD release

And you are ignoring the reality that big name artists like JMJ would get pre-release gear ahead of the general release. Do you think the KR55 just appeared one day with no product development cycle? That Korg designed it in a day, manufactured it in a day, and then it was magically in shops?

Yes the KR55 was available in shops to regular consumers in early 1979 but had been in development for quite some time

Giving pre production units to famous musicians in the 1970s to use on records was like synth manufacturers giving preproduction units to social media influencers in 2025

It also provided valuable feedback to engineers to have working musicians beta test new hardware

Perhaps, but not the case here. At the time JMJ was not endorsing brands or models. Other instrument, other album, you can find an interview about the Zoolook album where he says he couldn’t use the Emulator 2 because it was released after his recordings of the album.

But we are not talking about him endorsing anything or about the E-II. He obviously had no issues talking gear and what he used

You are also ignoring that his engineer Michel Geiss was heavily involved and had prototype sequencers and rhythm computers that he built involved in the recording process. Why is so hard to think he would have had access to Korg's prototype drum machine

[IvyBirds]

Dp

[seafire]

As for hoarding music software if you are just buying it for that sweet hit of dopamine, and you're not going to use it, consider giving it away to someone. Not everyone on this list has such unbearable first world problems.

Regarding hoarding music software, a while ago I got rid of 80% of my installed plugins and my productivity went up. It was a relief.

Please dont derail the thread by going back on topic

[crimsonwarlock]

In my pressing that I got upon release there is no gear list. In any case the record came out before the product officially launched why would a product that didn't officially exist, might never come to market and might not even have a name be listed? That would make no sense

First of all, every LP sleeve picture online shows the gear list on the back. So if you have a copy without that, I hazard a guess that yours is not an official copy.

Besides that, if the sleeve doesn't mention it (as my picture shows), and there is no interview with JMJ where he confirms the use of a Korg prototype, you are just dreaming up stuff, or regurgitating something that someone else dreamt up.

By the way, I also have a 1997 released CD version, which lists the exact same equipment as the original LP.

[pdxindy]

As for hoarding music software if you are just buying it for that sweet hit of dopamine, and you're not going to use it, consider giving it away to someone. Not everyone on this list has such unbearable first world problems.

Regarding hoarding music software, a while ago I got rid of 80% of my installed plugins and my productivity went up. It was a relief.

Please dont derail the thread by going back on topic

My apologies!

[BONES]

I wish that was true but it's not.

Of course it is. I'm not denying they do what they do, just that it's not some vast conspiracy, it's just business. It's no different to a cook (or a company) making their food as delicious as it can possibly be or tobacco companies putting cocaine into cigarettes (which they used to do when cocaine wasn't illegal). And if you think they weren't going just as hard at it before 2012, when Candy Crush was released, you're dreaming. King had developed literally hundreds of games before Candy Crush, their R&D was focused on FB and mobile because they were losing customers to those platforms, I doubt it had much to do with making their games as addictive as possible, they just wanted to compete. Focus groups have been around forever and they are often designed and supervised by psychologists or people working in that field. It's nothing new.

[dexrow]

I think of myself as a hacker, technician. experimenter. Unless it is just backing for a video it requires alot of new software and alot of sorting to be organized to make that a style.

Was listening at your channel a bit, the title "war over carbon" was softly melting my brain when I saw you were having a title called "psychedelic picnic". As if anything coud be even crazier hehe.

Interesting stuffs.... Future Sound Of London (FSOL) sounds like pop music in comparison to your creations .

glad you liked it... a bit of a doble meaning with carbon market in cebu.

[Michael L]

When I buy software faster than I can learn to use it expertly to express a specific musical idea *in that moment* then I know that I am hoarding and making a creative flow impossible

[Jac459]

I think of myself as a hacker, technician. experimenter. Unless it is just backing for a video it requires alot of new software and alot of sorting to be organized to make that a style.

Was listening at your channel a bit, the title "war over carbon" was softly melting my brain when I saw you were having a title called "psychedelic picnic". As if anything coud be even crazier hehe.

Interesting stuffs.... Future Sound Of London (FSOL) sounds like pop music in comparison to your creations .

glad you liked it... a bit of a doble meaning with carbon market in cebu.

Cebu .... Philippines ?

[vurt]

When I buy software faster than I can learn to use it expertly to express a specific musical idea *in that moment* then I know that I am hoarding and making a creative flow impossible

don't buy it then.

[Michael L]

When I buy software faster than I can learn to use it expertly to express a specific musical idea *in that moment* then I know that I am hoarding and making a creative flow impossible

don't buy it then.

Well d’uh, Yoda

[vurt]

When I buy software faster than I can learn to use it expertly to express a specific musical idea *in that moment* then I know that I am hoarding and making a creative flow impossible

don't buy it then.

Well d’uh, Yoda

but buy, you will.
nothing can you be taught, till you are willing to learn, yes.